Episode 170

Welcome to the eighth episode in our Bonkers series, where hosts MCG and Jay discuss various articles from the internet demonstrating the fact that this world has gone bonkers. From euthanasia to homeschooling, perversion to Noem…we discuss it all. We hope this series serves to remind everyone where our hope should be, and to warn everyone not to put any hope, confidence, or faith in man. No matter how terrible this world is or how much more terrible it is going to get, our God is on the throne and has given us His Word and His Spirit, all we could ever need for righteous and victorious living in a world that has gone bonkers!

[MCG]

Yeah, definitely, they would put down the dog, but the goat would have been prepared and probably had a big village potluck or something…

[Jay]

Goat water.

Thank you for tuning in to the Removing Barriers podcast. I’m Jay and I’m MCG and we’re attempting to remove barriers so we can all have a clear view of the cross.

[MCG]

This is episode 170 of the Removing Barriers Podcast, and this is the 8th in the series of this world have gone bonkers. And in this episode we have lined up on a number of news articles that we think will show that this world is bonkers.

[Jay]

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[MCG]

All right, Jay, I have an article here that I think is bunkers, so I’ll start. This is one is from the New York Post and is out of the Netherlands. The title of the article is physically healthy Dutch woman, the Rayer tabek, 29 years old, granted euthanasia approval. Over her severe depression. The young, physically healthy Dutch woman who decided to be euthanized because of her crippling depression, has been granted approval to end her life, officials in the Netherlands gave the final approval for the Ryer Tobek, 29, to die by assisted suicide on the grounds of unbearable mental suffering. According to the Guardian. To Beck, first applied for assisted suicide in 2020 following battles with depression and suicidal thought caused by difficulties in her early childhood, the once aspiring psychologists suffered from chronic depression, anxiety, trauma, borderline personality disorder, and was diagnosed with autism. Tibet believed that the safe environment her partner offered would help her mentally heal, but it didn’t, and she reportedly continued to have suicidal thoughts and self harm. So she’s healthy, she has better lives. She’s 29 years old. However, she had a troubled childhood and because of that. Some mental issues and she have acts to take her own life and she was granted approval by her government to do so, assisted suicide. What are your thoughts?

[Jay]

I think it’s very sad. I wonder what other things she has to do or prove to the government in order for this approval to take place. This do they just say all you need is the desire and we will approve. Or does she have to seek counseling or must she address other physical things such as health and diet and hobbies and things like that? Or is it just a thing where they just apply and you’re approved and then they assist you in your suicide?

[MCG]

Well. Well, the article addressed that. She hit back a critic, saying her wanting to die was just because of her mental issues. People think that when you are mentally ill you can’t think straight, which is insulting to, Beck told the outlet. Hmm, it’s not the funny situation, but. I don’t think you’re thinking straight. If you’re acting someone’s permission to take your life. But anyways, I digress. I understand the fears that some disabled people have about assisted dying and worried about people being on the pressure to die. But in the Netherlands we have had this law for more than 20 years. They are really strict rules. And it is really safe. Say for whom? I may ask. Tibetans taught about her decision throughout the long process would take several years to complete. In the 3 1/2 years this has taken, I have never hesitated about my decision. I have felt guilt. I have a partner, family, friends and I’m not blind to their pain. I’ve felt scared, but I’m absolutely determined to go through with it, she said. For a person to be considered eligible for assisted suicide. They must be deemed to be experiencing unbearable. Suffering with no prospect of improvement, according to Dutch law, the patient must be completely informed and competent for the final process to be initiated. Now I don’t know how you’re going to be completely informed and competent when they already said she had mental issues anyways. Again, I digress. It’s a long and complicated process. It’s not like you asked for assisted dying on Monday and you’re dead by Friday. I was on a waiting list for assessment for a long time because there are so few doctors willing to be involved in assisted dying for people with mental suffering, she added. A patient requesting to be euthanized must be evaluated by a team of physician, have a second opinion on eligibility, then the whole case. Have to be reviewed by a third independent doctor. Every doctor at every stage. Is Are you sure you can stop at any point? My partner has been in the room for most conversation in order to support me, but several times he has been asked to leave so the doctors can be sure and speaking freely. Tibet was forced to delete all her social media profiles after an article about her case was published in. April, which led to many users bombarding her inbox, telling her not to go through with the procedure, which left her in this. Stress people were saying don’t do it. Your life is precious. I know that others said they had a cure, like a special diet or drugs. Some told me to find Jesus or Allah or told me I’ll burn in hell. It was a total, let’s say disaster. Even though they had a stronger word there, I couldn’t handle all the negativity. Quebec expect to die in the coming weeks following a meeting with her medical team. I feel relief. It’s been such a long fight on the day of her death, her medical team will visit her at her home, a beginner process by giving her a sedative and what she’s in a coma. Tibet will be given the jugs that stop her heart. For me, it will be like falling asleep. My partner will be there. But I’ve told him it’s OK if he needs to leave the room before the moment of death, she said. Now the point has come. We are ready for it and we are finding a certain peace. I find guilt too. But sometimes when you love someone, you have to let them go. And that’s basically the article. So apparently they go through this long process. Of eligibility, I guess for mental competence and stuff like that, which is a bit ironic. As I said earlier because she clearly said that she has mental issues, she’s depressed and all these things. So when do you? Way. You don’t have the mental capacity to decide on this. OK? The crux of easy this is the problem when the government has all this power. All the things she’s going through. You know they, she said. Others have told her to find Jesus, but I don’t know. I just don’t think this is an error. The. Government. Should be involving telling people yes, we will be an assistant to you in taking your own life. I don’t know, it just shows the real depravity of man that we have come this far. And of course, again, I’m sure her feelings are real. We live in a sin cursed world and whatever childhood trauma she went through sympathized with her on that. But. I can’t see how a mentally competent person can come to the conclusion that this is a solution, but at the same time. I don’t really understand. Self deletion, so maybe if you do it this way, she probably wouldn’t have to do it the other way. That many folks have done it. But there’s no way no one can convince me that anyone who do that. At the moment of doing that, on the moment of the decision that they were mentally competent.

[Jay]

Yeah, I’m thinking of a famous Christian singer whose son had mental illness that was brought on by a medication that he was put on, and he ultimately took his life. And the question came to mind when I’m listening to you read this article, is it better? Her for her to go to medical professionals to have this done in a long, drawn out, visibly peaceful way. What I mean by visibly peaceful is that it seems like from the article that when it happens she would be sedated and put into a coma first. So it looks like. She’s sleeping and then they will give her the cocktail to stop her heart. And so at least to the family, it looks. It doesn’t look very jarring, it just looks like she would be going to sleep. I wonder if somehow in their minds they think it’s better to have it done that way than for someone to take their own life and have their family and the community find in a more gruesome, more jarring way.

[MCG]

Uh. I don’t know, but let me just read the disclaimer. Just because we’re talking about this and it says if you’re struggling with suicidal thoughts or experience mental health crisis, I live in New York City, which we don’t, but. Wherever you live, this is from the New York Post, you know, seek out basically what they’re saying. You know they have a number here. 1888 NYC well for free and confidential crisis counseling or the suicide prevention hotline at 1-800-273-8255. Or go to suicidepreventionlifeline.org.

[Jay]

I had an old pastor that said when you’re in sin. You’re insane, and so you can’t think straight when you’re not living in accordance to the scriptures. And I’m not saying that so as to point a finger negatively at her, I’m just saying anyone who is not submitted to the Lordship of Christ, who has not submitted to the gospel. Has that part of their faculties still following and under the influence of the world, the flesh and the Devil are three enemies, and so one thing that stood out in this article to me is that Dutch law says the person has to be suffering this mental cripple mental illness with. Quote No hope of improvement or no hope of getting better. My question is how can they possibly know if someone has no hope of getting better? I’m not sure how they would qualify or define that according to the law and.

[MCG]

Well, I guess after they have done everything humanly possible according to them, maybe she have been on medication. Maybe she has seen all their doctors and people with letters of their name and they figure well with no improvement. The problem with that, I believe this is a spiritual issue. And they’re trying to treat it physically.

[Jay]

And I believe it’s sent for the government to help or to promote it. I I agree, yeah.

[MCG]

Ohh yeah. Yeah, but I think we’re getting in some deep waters here because mental issues, you know, it’s not a topic that is spoken about a lot in even in the Christian world. And I was into this podcast of this Christian. Neuro something? He studies something with the brain and.

[Jay]

Like a neurologist or a neuroscientist or something.

[MCG]

I don’t. I don’t think he was quite a doctor, but he honestly like a medical doctor. He was more.

[Jay]

Like a biologist type or OK.

[MCG]

Yeah. Study the brain and stuff like that. And he said something I didn’t thought about that at that point. He said, you know, when we have a problem with our heart, we don’t have a problem going to the cardiologist or doing the surgery or something to repair it or even taking medication for heart. Addition. But when it comes to the brain, which is another organ, just like the heart. We don’t want to take medication or see a doctor about it, and he was basically saying, you know, mental illness are real and. At times it can be a taboo in the Christian community. I think when you go to Scripture, most of the mental issues you see in Scripture, if not all, I’ll probably say all I can think of any that wasn’t, but they were demon possession. When the Bible did was stuff like depression and stuff like that, it seems to recommend your walk with Christ and stuff that are greater than you and and and not consume so much with yourself. I’m no expert in this, but I wonder if this lady truly didn’t need a good Bible. Believe in Bible practice in. Christian pointed to Christ rather than to the doctors. I’m not saying that doctors don’t have a role. I’m sure there are times when you know, the doctors may have a role, but I’m just worried that the government is this deeply involved.

[Jay]

Yeah, I’m reading a follow up article here. She was indeed put to death on June 2nd of 2024. She apparently has been feeling this unbearable suffering since she was a child. She wanted to end her life. She was bullied and growing up, and she often felt like she didn’t fill in. Or she didn’t fit in. I’m sorry. And she went through with it. And the government assisted in her death. And so she is no more.

[MCG]

Yep, alright, what do you have for us?

[Jay]

OK, well, that was a kind of dark start to the. To the podcast, but it’s unfortunately not going to get much better. This is bonkers to me. On CNN, American Airlines claimed that a child was at fault for being secretly recorded in the lavatory or in the restroom of the. Aircraft. It’s since changed its response, but that was the response that American Airlines gave when the complaint was brought to them. That this 9 year old girl found a cell phone of some sort taped to the toilet seat of a laboratory or the back part of a toilet seat of the lavatory recording. And when she went and told her mom about it, of course, her mom, her father, went to both the company and the authorities about it and. American Airlines response was well, she should have known that was a recording a device and she shouldn’t have. I can’t even wrap my brain around that kind of response. Now, in all fairness since then, they said that it wasn’t their personal response. American Airlines, the company, did not respond that way. It was a third party insurance company, insurance company for a third party that filed that particular response. And so they were kind of disavowing themselves and saying that, no, it wasn’t the. Girl’s fault. We’re sorry that this ever even came out. That was not our official response, so I’ll just go ahead and read here. After American Airlines, in a legal response, blamed a nine year old girl for using an airplane bathroom that had a recording device allegedly placed there by a former employee. The airline has changed its response. The company was responding to a civil lawsuit filed against American Airlines, claiming that the girl, listed as Mary Doe, was secretly filmed while using the airplane toilet during an American Airlines flight in January of 2023. A former flight attendant, Estes Carter Thompson. Who’s?

OK.

[Jay]

37 years old. Who? Federal investigators say secretly recorded several minors while they used the bathroom on different flights for American Airlines last year, is also named in the lawsuit. This girl, unfortunately, was only nine years old. Others one girl mentioned in the article here that was 14. Who knows the young ages of other children that he has prayed upon. In a filing Monday, American Airlines initially argued that the girl was at fault and negligent because she used the lavatory quote she knew or should have known contained a visible and illuminated recording device in response to CNN’s request for comment on the filing, American Airlines said that the filing was made in. Error by outside counsel retained by the Airlines insurance company. The included defense is not representative of our airline and we have directed it be amended this. This morning, the American Airlines said in a statement on Wednesday. We do not believe this child is at fault and we take the allegations involving a former team member very seriously, so they quickly did the damage control, removed that filing and made it clear that they did not fill that particular way. Of course, the parents are not having it. They feel like American Airlines. Only made that statement simply because of the public backlash that the airline received as a result of this entire ordeal, and the article goes on. But what I would like to point out as bonkers. Is the depravity the depravity of being a 37 year old man recording children in some of their most vulnerable moments, like using the bathroom for example, the depth of the depravity is something that even though I understand what the scriptures say about the depravity of man. And how we are truly, genuinely depraved from the moment of conception. But it’s always shocking to see it in action. Anyone that thinks that somehow people are born. A clean slate and are somehow influenced toward negativity or influenced toward evil. I think they’re walking around with their eyes glued shut. The depth of depravity of man knows no end. It’s a bottomless bucket. Anyone that could be even remotely good or acceptable is only by the grace of God. But it’s just incredible to me. That’s such a monster. Don’t even think. When you look at some of the pictures that are available online in this incident, he didn’t even try to hide the thing. It was just shabbily taped to the back part of the toilet. I mean, it was partially, you know, if you’re not paying attention, you may not notice it. If you’ve got to get there in a hurry and you know, it may be something that you notice. Afterward but. The depravity of filming someone in their most intimate and vulnerable moments is incredible to me, and from what I understand, this is a very, very, very common practice. There are websites on the dark web that are dedicated solely to these cameras, that these stealth cameras, that depraved and perverted men and women carry around. To record people in compromising or intimate or, you know, vulnerable situations and they post it on these boards on these websites for other people to. Consume and they. Of course, there’s betting and money making based on how many views the videos get, and so just the praying on unknowing and unwitting people to me is just depraved. It’s bonkers. It blows my mind. I don’t know what are your thoughts on this?

[MCG]

The first thing come to my mind I I think American Airlines was just trying to minimize damage.

[Jay]

Ohh yeah.

[MCG]

You know, it’s all come down to the almighty dollar when it comes to these companies. But to some extent, I don’t think that they’re lying. I think that it could be that it was the insurance company that put that out and not them, because at the end of the day it’s a insurance claim. And I guess then another one losing the money directly, even though maybe the insurance premium might go up. But these big companies, how much money do they pay for insurance anyway? But guess this is just about American Airlines response, because I don’t see anything about this guy being charged criminally. I’m sure that’s definitely a federal crime, so.

[Jay]

Well, OK. Sure, he has been, and the article goes on to say that his phone. And he himself were confiscated, investigated only as a result of the backlash that they received from this particular erroneous. And I put that in air quotes response. So apparently on his tech, whether it’s his phone or his computer, he was found to have just loads and multiple pieces of csam. Which is short for indecent videos of children. I think you all know what I’m trying to say without being too graphic or vulgar. And so it turns out, however, that they believe that American Airlines was only trying to do the damage control and that they weren’t being truthful about the fact that their insurance. Company. The alleged fact that the insurance company filed that claim because apparently this happened to a 14 year old and when the parents filed a complaint, American Airlines and I’m reading from the article here, their conduct immediately following the incident just shows that they didn’t care. They did not immediately confiscate the flight attendants phone, they did not. Immediately notify the pilots and they allowed the flight attendant to destroy evidence they gave him time to destroy evidence, not confiscating everything immediately, and it exacerbated the harm that was suffered by that particular plaintiff, who this is a different place if 14 years old. And so it seems like it was just damage control, perhaps. They just couldn’t afford the bad publicity and so they kind of try to do damage control there, which is incredibly sad. You mentioned the almighty dollar. The almighty dollar is more important than protecting the innocents and the decency and the dignity, I should say of our children, which is bonkers to me. It’s not surprising. Unfortunately, but bonkers. Incredibly bonkers.

[MCG]

Yeah, I would agree. I’m not quite sure they can conversate his personal. Cell phone or whatever, but well.

[Jay]

Why wouldn’t they be able to?

[MCG]

Because if not company property, but they will probably need to get the authorities involved and if they get the authorities involved, I guess they want to be hesitant on that. I’m trying to look at it from their point of view. So a complaint is made against a certain employee. Do we give the employee time to defend themselves? Say this is what was.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[MCG]

Said about you. Is this true or do we get their authorities involved right away? I guess company policies and laws would have to dictate that, but yeah, I do agree with you, though. You’re listening to the removing various podcasts we are talking about some bonkers articles. We’ll be right.

[Jay]

MHM.

[MCG]

Back.

[Jay]

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[MCG]

Alright Jay, I have another one. This one is a clip of a lady. I’m not quite sure how you say her first name. She is from India, so I’m gonna try. I think it’s. Ready red eye.

[Jay]

Riddy Patel.

[MCG]

Last name is Patel and she threatens the Bakersfield City Council with. So we all of us know that there has been a war going on between Israel and Hamas for the last couple of months and passions are high. I guess you should say on both sides of the aisle there are some people that are standing with Palestine there, others that are standing with Israel and Miss Patel. Decides you’re going to go to the City Council and hear her grievance. And you know, we say sometimes that the leftists always get away with their. Things that they do, I guess you want to put it that way. Usually they’re not held accountable. Well, I guess this young lady went a little bit too far. So now we know what the limit is, but here is what this young lady did and said at their city come for herein.

[Ms. Patel]

Hi there. My name is Rudi Patel. I’m here to speak in support of the City Council introducing a ceasefire resolution, specifically the one United Liberation Front has drafted. I don’t have faith that you’ll do this. You guys are all horrible human beings, and Jesus probably would have killed you himself. And The thing is, though, it’s very clear to me, isn’t someone who’s been an organizer for the past couple of years that none of you care because you got you guys don’t care about anything happening in Palestine or any other country where oppression occurs because you don’t care about the oppression occurring. Here and I understand that you guys are all horrible people. But The thing is, 2300 people being evicted in the last year. Those are votes and you guys, those are votes to win here in Bakersfield and while you you guys parade Gandhi around as a Hindu holiday called Chaitra Navratri, it starts off this week. I remind you that these holidays that we practice that other people in the global S practice believe in violent revolution. Against their oppressors, and I hope one day somebody brings the guillotine and kills.

[Ms. Patel]

The increased criminalization for no need other than you don’t like when people come and hold you guys accountable for introducing ceasefire resolutions, because the only escalation and violence has been by you all. And so there’s no need to continue in the last five years I’ve attended City Council meetings, there’s never been metal detectors, there’s never been. For cops, the only reason you’re doing it is because people actually don’t care. If you guys don’t like them and they’re actually resisting. So you want to criminalize them. So.

[MCG]

Alright, so we’ll stop there for a little bit. So you can see that she’s fired up. She’s cursing some of it. We censored out and she basically said that she’s going to wishing that folks will, you know, she said use the Lord name it vain and said even the Lord would have taken them. Out.

[Jay]

To me, actually attributing sin to him.

[MCG]

Yeah. Yep. So anyways, she’s fired up, and the City Council’s sitting there. You know, this is not a video podcast, but they’re sitting there and they’re taking it in and basically giving her freedom of speech. But she took it a little bit too far. Let.

[Ms. Patel]

Me continue regardless of whether you elect people into office, they’ll. Back stab you. They’ll let you die, and for that reason, you guys want to criminalize us with metal detectors. We’ll see you at your house. We’ll murder you.

[MCG]

So. I guess at times you don’t understand the 1st amendment. You know, I guess your freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion. But accusing your leaders or your representative against not your leaders, your representative, you could kill them. And she did this right in front of police officers. So. I don’t know if this was. Just to be nice, is not the wisest decision she could have made. But anyways, the news clip of the video continues.

[Jay]

Paris.

[City Counsel]

Next speaker please.

[MCG]

And note how the City Council lady there just went on to the next speaker like someone just didn’t threaten her life. But anyways, it continues.

[City Counsel]

Plans followed by Kev, followed by Valeria.

[City Counsel]

Right. Miss Patel. Miss Patel, that was a three. What you said at the end and so the officers are going to escort you out and take care of that.

[MCG]

So they finally realized ohh, this lady, he just threatened me. Let me do something about it anyways. She was charged with about. I think it’s like 11 or 8:00 to 11:00 felony counts and I don’t have the clip of this, but when she was being arraigned, she was a different Miss Patel. She was in tears. Uncontrollable stuff like that. But I don’t think the trial is completed yet, but she’s been charged and she had the number one or two court hearings, but nothing has come out of it.

[Jay]

I’m sure I’m sure.

[MCG]

But I guess we know now what’s the limit of your protest and your free speech when it comes to the leftists, because it seems otherwise. You can do and say whatever you want, but just don’t tell them that you’re going to come to their home and murder. Them I guess.

[Jay]

She had motive. She had a time like a time frame, and there was the death threat there. The motive was, of course, she felt like they didn’t care and that they were evil people.

[MCG]

But the question is, did she have means the?

[Jay]

This is America, man. Of course there’s memes, you know. And now of course, because metal detectors were put up and people are being criminalized now, we’re gonna come to your house. And clearly, she said we will murder you. I mean, first of all, it’s bonkers that you would say that to someone. Secondly. You said in front of cop.

[MCG]

Yeah, it was. It was a City Council meeting. So there.

[Jay]

See, she’s just.

[Jay]

Emboldened to say these things with police officers at a City Council meeting.

[MCG]

Yeah, there were police officers in the room against providing security or whatever case may be.

[Jay]

There’s no reason to believe that she’s in her right mind. It is fair to label her as radicalized and they should throw the.

[MCG]

Book at her well, she said as much. She said that basically in her country that would have been the result of the crime, and since this is America. And no one is going to execute such harsh punishment. Guess she will. Don’t do it.

[Jay]

Well, I guess she. I guess she got what she was looking for. So I would like to see the video of her. Was it like an arraignment or something where she had to stand in front of the I would love.

[MCG]

Basic. Please do.

[Jay]

To see that video.

[MCG]

Yeah, basically, you know, she wears, read the charges against her and had to, you know, put in a plea, whatever.

[Jay]

And here’s something that I don’t understand. I don’t understand. Why people feel the need to tell people what they should be outraged about, OK, we know that there’s conflict going on in the Middle East. We also have conflict going on here. And if for whatever reason I say, hey, I’m going to take all of my energy and focus on, I don’t know. Elections in Virginia. I’m not going to worry about anybody else right now. Any other country. I just going to worry about Virginia. Am I too, do I fall under her description of people who don’t care? Of course I don’t want people blown up and dying in different wars and different, you know, contentions across the globe. But if I’m focused on this one particular thing, does that make me one of the people, the horrible people that she’s talking about, too? I don’t think that’s necessarily true. And to try to put that pressure on people, you’re absolutely horrible people because you don’t care about what’s going on in in oppression, in this country or that country. Uh. No.

[MCG]

Well, it’s the media and our consuming of the media because, yeah, there’s the war going on in Ukraine and Russia. There’s a war going on between Israel and Gaza. I would mostly Israel and Hamas, but there are tons of war going on in Africa as well and and other places around the world.

[Jay]

Yeah. Yeah, nobody. Nobody’s. Nobody’s. Flipping a switch on those things.

[MCG]

Just recently I think it was Nigeria, I think where Christians have been persecuted, they burned their church down and they basically met in the. Burnout Church and still have services because they were determined that they’re not going to let the folks their pression stop them. So you know, I guess, yeah, you’re right. You can choose your passion, choose your where you’re going to be consumed by. But most of the time, the news media and the news cycle kind of help drive our passion.

[Jay]

Hmm.

[MCG]

Which is wrong in my opinion.

[Jay]

Sure. And it’s it is driving people nuts. It’s radicalizing people for sure.

[MCG]

Because if the country wants us to get all fired up about what’s happening in Africa, we can, but at the same time, why would the US care about what’s going on in Africa? It doesn’t really involve anything what happened in.

[Jay]

Well, because if you don’t, if you’re America first, that makes you a bigot.

[MCG]

In. That’s why no is because what’s happening in is real. And what happened in in Russia is more sociopolitical interest to the US than what’s going. On in Africa. Yeah. Anyways, do you have?

[Jay]

Another one? Yes, I have another one that was actually quite shocked to hear her talking to people like that. But then of course, let’s go to the next one. All right, this one from the New York Post, transgender swimmer Leah Thomas fails and challenge to rules that bar her from the Olympics. Him. Yes, bar him from the Olympics. You took it right out of my mouth. I was gonna go back and read it properly to read his correct name and say bar him from the Olympics. But the title.

[MCG]

But.

[Jay]

His transgender swimmer, Leah Thomas, fails in challenge to rules that bar her from the Olympics first. Bonkers that they would even acknowledge and affirm that a man is a woman. OK, let’s just leave that one alone. But let’s go ahead and read so controversial transgender swimmer. I’m just gonna say. Thomas, because I don’t think his name is Leah. Yes, I am dead naming. Come at me, William. OK. Was that his name before? OK. Transgender swimmer William Thomas will not take part in the upcoming Paris Olympics after losing a legal battle in which he argued the rules prohibiting him from participating were.

[MCG]

William.

[Jay]

Invalid and unlawful, Thomas, 25, who transition. Via hormone therapy after competing for three years as male on the University of Pennsylvania, swim team dominated the field of biological women to become the first openly trans person to win an NCAA Division title in 2022. His ascent sparked an impassioned national debate about whether it was fair. For biologically male athletes who change their gender to compete in female sports lead. He filed suit against World Aquatics, the world governing body for water sports, including swimming, seeking to overturn their 2022 policy prohibiting athletes who had been through any part of male puberty from competing in the female category. OK, so World Aquatics had a policy that they put in place in 2022 saying that if you went through. Puberty. You can’t compete in female sports. Period. And that’s what he was actually fighting against. OK. And so the matter was adjudicated by the Court of Arbitration for Sport or the CAS, a Swiss based international body for settling disputes that arise within the world of high level athletics.

[MCG]

Right.

[Jay]

Which wrote in its 24 page decision that Thomas was, quote, simply not entitled to engage with eligibility to complete and WBA competitions in a statement, World Aquatics touted the ruling as a major step forward in our efforts to protect women’s sports, the governing body added that it is, quote, dedicated to fostering an environment that promotes. Fairness, respect and equal opportunities for athletes of all genders, and we reaffirm this pledge. Woohoo. Go for. The policy was introduced after Thomas easily defeated the Olympic silver medalist Emma Wygant by 1.75 seconds to claim the NCAA title in the Women’s 500 yard freestyle event 1.75 seconds. It sounds like it’s a short, but that’s actually a lot in swimming typically. Yeah, typically at this level they’re beating each other by tenths.

[MCG]

Ohh yeah.

[Jay]

Of seconds he beat her by almost a whole 2 seconds. In a subsequent attempt to include as many athletes as possible, the WA introduced a new quote open category, inclusive of transgender swimmers, so it’s not enough that they opened a whole new category for people who have this mental illness that want to compete in the opposite sex category for swimming. It’s not enough that they do that. No, he wants to compete. With the women he has to have his way. You know that same password that said, when you’re insane, you’re insane, he said this, he said you know how sin works. First, they’ll complain that they’re being oppressed, or that they should be accepted, and then when they gain acceptance, they’ll start volleying and agitating for superiority, and then once they get that, they will agitate and protest and carry on so that they would be the norm. And so you could see this happening. It’s not enough that they went. Out of their way to open a new category? No, he has to compete with the women. Which is bonkers. He’s bonkers. But I am very pleased to see that the world Aquatics governing body took a stand and knocked that down. I’m actually surprised because it seemed to me that everybody’s bound the knee to this transgender agenda, and it’s nice to see that they took a stand. So there’s a little bit of silver lining there, wouldn’t you say, not really, not really. Why not?

[MCG]

Firstly, I think the reason why they don’t want to participate in the open category is because the open category is not affirming. And that’s what they’re looking for if they.

[Jay]

They you mean transgenders? Right. Ohh, got it. Got it.

[MCG]

So if they’re, if they are able to participate in their gender of their choice, then that’s more like, well, I say a woman. So I’m going to be able to be a firm as a woman by participating that if you put me in the open category, you’re affirming me. As. Something else? So it’s not affirming.

[Jay]

Mm-hmm. And denying, yeah.

[MCG]

Right. So of course they’re gonna do that. But guessing from a political point of view, you can say yeah, good damn that day. Take a stand and decide and not going to, you know, have strict rules and not allow him to participate in the Roman category. But I don’t really say this shouldn’t even be necessary. They shouldn’t even have rules that say you only can participate if you didn’t go through male. Puberty the rule is simple. If you’re male, you can participate in women’s sport, and if you’re a woman, you can participate in male sport. There’s a reason why we separate the. The rule is simple, I don’t know why all these hoops and hoopla and testosterone levels and all these things. No. Who cares?

[Jay]

Well, they have no moral authority, so they have to acquiesce to aberrant.

[MCG]

This is not even moral. This is scientific. Your male, your XY. You can’t participate your ex. You can’t participate. It’s simple.

[Jay]

But and see Gee. He was on hormone therapy that makes him woman, doesn’t it?

[MCG]

I’m sure it does. Anyways, you’re listening to the Moving Virus podcast we have just looked at some more bunkers. Articles. We’ll be right back.

[Jay]

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[MCG]

All right, let’s go to a little lighter article, right.

[Jay]

Most welcome.

[MCG]

I guess ice is lighter because, well in the islands this would be a very light one. In the US this is. Akin to murder. But anyway, CNN. I know. I think it’s a few months ago now, but Christy, is it noon or Norm Christie knew she wrote a book, and in the book she detailed about the fact that she had to put down her dog. Dog and a goat she had. And this Parker really big debate over city folks and country folks and farmers and people that understand Christine Nome and people that don’t I find kind of interesting because I kind of grew up in a farming community and I can understand Christy Nome’s point of view. Not necessarily from a political point of view, but there’s guess from a practical point of view, and being from the islands where a dog is actually a dog and not a pet and not a part of the family and not stuff like that. We don’t treat the dogs in the islands like Americans treat their dogs up here. You know, the dogs will come in the home and sleep in the same bed with us and have better health insurance than some people on the street. But anyways, here is a panel from CNN talking about how outrageous this was.

[CNN Panel]

South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem released a new book, The Guardian got its hands on a copy, and the outlet is flagging a section in which she describes killing her dog named cricket.

[CNN Panel]

So the easy way to explain what happened here, if you haven’t read it, is to read it out loud to you. So we have the main part of the article, and we’re just gonna read it.

[CNN Panel]

OK, so listen it alright? So it begins here. Cricket was a wire hair pointer about 14 months old, she says, adding that the dog, a female, had a aggressive. Personality and needed to be trained to be used for hunting.

[CNN Panel]

Pheasants. She includes her story about the ill-fated cricket she says, to illustrate her willingness in politics as well as in South Dakota life to do anything. Difficult, messy and ugly End Quote if it simply needs to be done by taking cricket on a pheasant hunt. With older dogs, domes says she hoped to calm the young dog down and begin to teach her how to.

[CNN Panel]

Behave from puppy or unfortunately cricket ruined the hunt, she said. Going quote out of her mind with excitement chasing all the birds and having the time of her life. Known describes calling cricket, then using an electronic collar to attempt to to bring her under control. Nothing worked then on the way home after the hunt, as Nome stopped to talk to a local family cricket escape. Noah’s truck and attacked the family’s.

[CNN Panel]

Chickens. So quote grabbing one chicken at a time, crunching it to death with one bite, then dropping it to attack another cricket. The Untrainable dog gnome. Rice behaved like a quote trained assassin when Nome finally grabbed cricket, she says the dog quote whipped around to bite me. Then, as the chickens owner wept, Noam repeatedly apologized, wrote the show, wrote the shocked family. A check quote for the price? They asked and helped them dispose of the carcasses littering the scene of.

[CNN Panel]

The crime? OK. Through it all, GNOME says cricket was, quote, the picture of pure joy. Say I hated that dog, Norm writes.

[MCG]

All right, I’m going to pass this for a little bit because you know, as I said, I grew up in a farming community. And dogs were not the friends of farmers. Let me rephrase that. There’s some farmers that had dogs for what their personal protection or whatever the case may be. The problem they had with dogs. And I had an uncle who had. Probably 350 heads of sheep, so he had a lot of sheep growing. Up. And the country being a country where a lot of tourists comes and even migrate to so they can live on the beach and areas and property that they probably wouldn’t be able to afford in. Their. Homeland, but they will come and they bring their very aggressive. Breed of dogs with them as well. And growing up, especially people from the UK usually do this. They will have their aggressive breed of dogs and what they would do is that they would actually let the dog out to go. I guess, I don’t know the intention, but most of the time when they do that, their dog will go and attack my uncle she. Or many of the OR the farmer stuff. What did they do? They may have gone and talk to the owners, but I can guarantee you they’re only going to talk to the owner. Once. You know, because after that, I’ve never done this. This is in my youth. But after that I have known of several farmers who have put down poison for dog. And it was a constant recurring stuff, a dog attack. Your livestock within a day or two, the dog is going to be dead because they’re going to put down poison. So the dog will go and eat it and die. Why? I grew up and that was a common place. So basically they said to the person the owner control your dog or else you’re not going to have a dog because the dog was a dog. I remember even another uncle of mine, a neighbor dog, went into his farm, which was fenced and penned in. And the dog got in somehow. And attack several of his sheep and goats that he had, and the next day he found the dog in his pen. And what did he do? A group of guys basically beat that dog to death. And again, I’m not. I’m not advocating for violence against animals.

[Jay]

Of course not.

[MCG]

But I’m just saying I grew up in a community. Where a dog go out of line. You put it down because you know that was norm and I guess coming to the. US. Seeing dogs in people house and on their bed and on the and stuff. Like that was.

[Jay]

A member of the family.

[MCG]

A little bit of a closer shock for me, but I don’t know. I guess I understand to some degree here. But The funny thing about CNN and the panel being so outraged is that I wonder.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[MCG]

If they had seen the article of the riot Tibet, would they be as outrage? You know, you’re talking about human life versus a dog, you know. Anyways, continue.

[CNN Panel]

Adding that cricket had proved herself, quote, untrainable. Dangerous to anyone. She came in contact with and less than worthless as a hunting.

[CNN Panel]

Dog. So at that moment, Noam says, I realized I had to put her down Nome, who also represented a state and Congress for eight years, got her gun, then led cricket to a gravel pit add.

[CNN Panel]

It was not a pleasant job, she writes, but it had to be done, and after it was. Over I realized another unpleasant job needed to be done. Incredibly, gnomes tale of slaughter is not finished.

[CNN Panel]

Her family, she writes, also owned a male goat that was nasty and mean because it had not been castrated. Furthermore, as one knows, the goat smelled disgusting.

Naturally.

[CNN Panel]

Muskie, rancid and loved to chase Noah’s children, knocking them down and ruining their clothes.

[CNN Panel]

Noam decided to kill the unnamed goat the same way she had just killed cricket the dog, but though she dragged him to a gravel pit, the goat jumped as she shot and therefore survived the wound. Noam says she went back to her truck, retrieved another shell and hurried back to the gravel pit and put him down. At that point, none, right. She realized the construction crew had watched her killed both animals. The startled worker swiftly got back to work, she writes, only for a school bus to arrive. And drop off Nomes children both and.

[MCG]

Now I’ll give them this. You know, we probably would not have done that to a goat. The goat would probably have been strung up and slaughtered and prepared for meat. But again, we didn’t have access to guns like that, so it was a little bit more. I guess graphic for the guys to do to put down a dog and a goat, but yeah, definitely they will put down the dog, but the goats would have been prepared and probably had a big village potluck or something. Would that go right? Definitely, but.

[Jay]

Good water.

[Jay]

Could hear the disgust and the disdain that these people have in their voices for what they would consider to be low class, dirty farmer. Erica ohh. You deal with animals that way? Ohh, how utterly beneath us. I would imagine that if you were to ask them where does beef come from, their answer would be ohh it comes from the grocery store. That’s probably what they would say. They have no idea.

[MCG]

It’s plant, what they call it.

[Jay]

Ohh, it’s plant based, right? Right, right, right. It’s put based for me. They have no idea what real life is like when you’re living on the farm or you’re living in rural areas. It’s nothing like what they would encounter in the city.

[MCG]

Not with me.

[Jay]

But that’s how people have lived for millennia. Up until 15 minutes ago, and now they’re turning up like nothing. I was born and raised here in the States, and nothing that they’ve read from Christie. Noah’s book surprises me at all. None of it seems out of order or particularly cruel or anything like that. That just seems to be normal. In fact, my parents, when they immigrated here. Tried to be normal and try. I I love dogs. I grew up with dogs. Please don’t misunderstand. But they could not wrap their brains around how your neighbor could call the cops on you because of your dog and get you in trouble with the law because of your dog. To them, that was bonkers. Why would they even give themselves that trouble? They would rather get rid of the dog. Than to have to deal with that trouble. The level of care that you have to give to a dog here is just beyond the pale, but because they’re so elite and they don’t have to deal. With where the rubber meets the road when it comes to life and farm life and actual animals and stuff, they could have that sneering attitude that we hear in that clip.

[MCG]

Well, Americans do love their dogs and.

[Jay]

I love dogs too, but if a dog turned around and bit me, I would absolutely put it down myself as well.

[MCG]

Well, I don’t know about that, but I guess you know different culture, different strokes for different folks I guess. But anyway I continued their discussion.

[Jay]

Here he goes.

[CNN Panel]

Kennedy looked around, confused. No rights of her daughter. Who asked. Hey. Yeah. Where’s? Cricket this is not a joke. If you are thinking this is not true. None has now defended the scenes in the statements that she made in her own book, saying she loves animals. But tough decisions happen all the time on a farm. In fact, she says they recently put down three horses. I don’t know how to bring the panel back after that, but I’m going to do it now. We’ve got SC Cup, van Lathan, van Jones, Scott Jennings and our carry champion. All standing by I journalistically I know that I need to sort of. You can’t kill a dog or a goat like that. Insane. Well, it’s your.

[Jay]

Why not? No. Not.

[CNN Panel]

Comment. It’s not. It’s not old yeller, that’s for sure. Listen, two things. I hunt over dogs. It’s a thing they don’t have to be put down if they’re not great at hunting. Right. There are 1000 other things you can do with them. Before you have to kill it for really no good reason to. This is a thing that some women politicians do. You remember Joni Ernst talking about castrating pigs? Mm-hmm. When she was coming into the Senate to talk about, like, rural life, life on the farm makes them seem a little tough. Maybe it’s not a thing any of us need. As voters, we don’t need to hear about it. Save that trauma for your therapist.

[Jay

Sorry.

[MCG]

What? Like what? Anyways, as I said, I.

[Jay]

Trauma. Really. We’re gonna go to that level. Trauma. Ohh, brother.

[MCG]

I grew up in a farming community. My uncle had, as I said, he had sheep. He had cattle. My mum had some cattle as well. And you know, I guess culture different lifestyle because growing up these were norm for us. Sure you know we know that the animals, even the ones that we gave names, we know that one day you know they’re going to be on the dinner table. Well, maybe not the females like the female, the cows and stuff like that. You probably keep those around. Because those are the ones that are going to generate give you more animals, but you normally will keep usually one. And mail around if that much, but the males are the ones that generate the money because they want them to grow up and they’re gonna be slaughtered and or sold or whatever the case may be, because that’s what it is. Castration. I have castrated. I don’t know what the number is, but sheep go. Number of them. Just by helping my uncle and. Whatever the case may be, you know. Especially after time where we have a bunch of lambs that are born by time. There a couple of weeks old, you just round all of them up and you almost like an assembly line. You get them through bam, send it on the way. Remember those show dirty jobs? Yeah. When you went to show the castration. Mm-hmm. It’s best like that. I’ve done that.

[Jay]

You know well, you peasant you. That’s what they would say if they heard you say that.

[MCG]

In of course. The funny thing, The funny thing about it, the way that they call their inhumane way on dirty jobs was the way we did it. You know, there are two.

[MCG]

You can get get to graphic here, but you can clip it and take out the sacks. Or you can put like a really strong, let’s call it a rubber band on it and after a week or two it fall off. That’s the way we used to do it and under the job they said that’s their inhumane way because the animals suffer for. Two weeks.

[Jay]

That whole time, yeah.

[MCG]

I don’t think they really suffered, you know, you know, initially it’s painful, but after that is Canada’s guide off and fall off. And the animal is happy and go lucky. But again, the only reason you keep usually my uncle would only keep like 2 males. In the flock, all the others are castrated and allowed to grow and fat, and by that case, maybe because we going to sell them to be slaughtered or soften them ourselves so we can have some mutton and whatever else to eat so.

[Jay]

MCG this is the 21st century. We don’t do those lowly peasant farm things anymore, don’t you understand?

[MCG]

Well, we don’t see it, but I can assure you we’re Christian Newman’s from and the farmers in America. I’m sure they still do stuff like that, they just don’t, you know, broadcast it.

[Jay]

This is the disdain that these elites have for Middle America, for farmers, for the down salt of the Earth, people that keep this country running their farms. This is the esteem that they have for such people. This reminds me of an episode from PBS’s Frontier House at the beginning these families come and they’re just so traumatized to see a chicken put to death. So they could have dinner at night and they’re so traumatized. But after about three weeks on this frontier that they are living with no running water in the same conditions that the settlers had when they first moved out to the. By the time it comes even bigger animals, they’re just rubbing their fingers together, and they’re excited. They’re rubbing their forks together, excited because there’s meat, there’s food, and it only took about 2-3 weeks living and that kind of life for them to realize that this is normal. This is life on the farm. There’s nothing to write home about here. Yeah, OK.

[MCG]

I guess Christian Norman cannot be. Well, Trump’s vice president anyway, because she talked about clean dogs. But hey, you know, again, I’m not telling not to love your dogs and not to treat your dogs, you know, culture and norms varies. But for me, this was nothing to write home about. This was normal, but.

[Jay]

And I love dogs. Oh my goodness, I love dogs. Well, let’s be real. She’s republican. She was wearing the make America great again hat. She was one of the deplorables. And so they had to come after her. It’s low hanging fruit. It’s easy. It’s disingenuous. It’s easy. That’s why they were doing it. These people are evil. They knew exactly what they were. Doing. And you know what? They probably have no idea that America is laughing at them because for the rest of America, there’s nothing to write home about.

[MCG]

I don’t know about that because you know you you have half of the country living on the east and West Coast. I probably don’t know anything about.

[Jay]

Unless you’re living in New York.

[MCG]

These things so.

[Jay]

True. True. OK, so fly over America is laughing at them because they have no idea what they’re talking about it. And they’re being disingenuous about it as well. So anyhow, I have the last one. This is the last one for me anyway, and I have some dishonorable mentions. This one is disturbing. And this brings up a lot of questions for me. The Washington Post created a series on.

[MCG]

You have another one.

[Jay]

Education in America, particularly shining a light on homeschooling. Of course, homeschooling experiencing an explosion in numbers during the pandemic, the title of this article, and I’m not going to read the entirety of it because it’s more like a very lengthy expose, like an in-depth story, narrative driven type article. But anyway, the title is called the Revolt of the Christian home schoolers. Subtitled there is. They were taught that public schools are evil. Then a Virginia couple defied their families and enrolled their kids. So the general gist of this? Story follows a couple who was raised in conservative fundamentalist Christian circles, homeschooled, and were raised to believe that the public education system is. Let’s say less than ideal for educating your children and that children should be homeschooled. They were raised in that particular environment with that line of thought. But when they became married and they had their child, they began to. To do things their own way, they began to walk away from some of the teachings that their circle taught them and ultimately looks like they walked away from the faith altogether, and now they are more like activists against homeschooling of this particular ilk of the Christian fundamentalist ilk. They are advocating. For a substantial increase in government regulation of home schools because they say that you absolutely have to protect children from abuse and the abuse is actually happening in these Christian homes, et cetera. And so I read this article and I was just disturbed because of who the enemy is. The enemy in this article is the Conservative. Fundamentalist Christian. So the Christian that believes that God created the world in six literal days and rested on the 7th. The Christian that believes that there is a literal heaven and a literal hell, and that there is a devil that is out seeking to devour whom he may find, and the Christian that believes that. Home schooling is the best way to educate your child and that you should not put them in the quote indoctrination camps of the government. The Christian that does not believe in evolution and believes that men and women are exactly that. Men and women. Men can’t be women and women can’t. Men, the Christian that believes in biblical ideas and biblical truth of biology, history, gender, all of these different things, and so that is the target. The enemy as listed in this article and. They say that people this article labels people who believe, and I would put myself in that camp. I believe all of those things, they call that a fringe phenomenon, that it is this weird thing that people are doing. If you believe in all of those things that I listed and let me find one of the. Paragraph that I read that’s just so unnerving and just sad to read. Let’s see this couple when they sent their child to the public school system, it created a rift in their families because obviously the parents wanted the children to be homeschooled, didn’t want the children to come under the influence of the public school system. And so, because of that tension, even pastors got involved. I guess their different pastors got involved and it became this huge thing, and it’s out in the media for everyone to kind of consume and to chime in on. And so this couple. People felt like they were being lied to by their families, by their churches, by these home school organizations. They specifically mentioned the HS LDA so you could see who they’re really coming after. These are people who actually believe what the Bible says. The reason why they feel like they were being taught propaganda is because when they went. Into their schools. The school that they said their child. Do they didn’t see all of the indoctrination that people told them to be worried about, and they didn’t see they were expecting it to be like the cesspool of American and human depravity, but they didn’t find that they claimed they found normal child. That were normally adjusted and there was nothing to be afraid of. And so because of that, they began to question everything that their pastors and their teachers and their parents told them. The husband most definitely walked away from the faith. It wasn’t clear from the article whether or not the wife did, which it wouldn’t surprise me if she did, but they’re basically walking away from the faith and now they’re pointing the finger. At their family and people of their ilk, let’s say that think like them that believe like them as the existential threat to America. And I just found that to be incredibly disheartening and the last removing barriers. Podcast we talked about how Richard Dawkins and people who think like them called people like us who believe in literal creation. 6 days of creation. He called that belief pernicious. What a word she used to describe people who believe what the Bible says pernicious. Men pretending to be women and competing in contact sports against women. No, that’s pernicious. People that men and women are the same and that people are basically apes, evolved apes and that there is no heaven. There is no hell, there’s no consequences. There’s no right. There’s no wrong that’s pernicious. Ohh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that’s not pernicious. You believe in God and you believe in creation. And you believe that? There’s some person that’s going to judge you for yourself. Oh, no, no, no. That’s pernicious. So it’s been completely flipped on its head. And the people they’re coming after are Christians who believe this. And so they specifically mentioned that in the 1980s, homeschooling increased. Because the Christians at that time were increasingly concerned about the direction they saw the country going, even back then 30 years ago or 40 years ago, however long it’s been, and so they wanted to bring their children home and raise them in the fair and ambition of the Lord and raise up a quote, Joshua generation, a generation of God fearing people. Who would stand up for what’s right and get involved? In the politics and in the institutions of the country to steer the country back toward a more God fearing path. And so those people, according to the article, are the pernicious and evil ones that we should suspect. And it’s just sad to see people coming after Christians with that particular animus. With that particular anger, I guess with that particular energy, I can’t think of a better. Word now what I would like to say is that there certainly is a problem with the potential of hiding, abuse, abusing children and hiding it. When it comes to keeping them at home, home schooling and all those sorts of things. But I don’t think it’s the government’s place to, at least not initially, to pursue that. I think that homeschooling. Works when these families are involved in a local body of believers that are worshipping together, holding each other accountable. That community at that level, that. Will be the accountability that families need to make sure that children aren’t being abused because at that point the abusive family will obviously going against Christian standards and so they will be dealt with Matthew 18 like and then handed over to the authorities. If they continue in their disobedience. What they’re advocating for is for the government to step in wholesale and regulate what the parents are to teach, how they’re to teach when they’re to teach that level of regulation, which is something that the NHS, LDA and many other organizations are fighting against. To me, I picked this article because it’s really sad to see how the world thinks of. Us. You know, the Bible tells us that they will think of us this way. We know that they think of us this way, but it’s sad to actually see them writing these things and saying it out loud for everyone to hear. There’s your enemy. There are the kooks. There are the others. And let’s get them. Let’s get after them, which I found to be just really disheartening. Well, firstly.

[MCG]

You know, she said she visited the school and she didn’t see anything like what her parents may have described. Mm-hmm. And that’s understandable. You know, if I’m going over to my friend’s home when I let my friend know I’m coming. I don’t expect to find their laundry in the living room because they’re probably going to clean up before I come. Sure. So yeah, you’re probably not gonna find it the way it is because they probably going to clean up a little bit before you come over. And as voted back them and even maybe Ken Ham has said you can’t expect to send your kids to the Romans. And you know, and complain when they come. Back being Greeks.

[Jay]

MHM.

[MCG]

Or they have joined the Roman army or whatever the case may be, you know, educating your child is very important because especially in the form of the years, you know, and you’re going to pass that off to someone who doesn’t hold to your values and your beliefs. Well, to each their own, I guess. But at the same time, I understand people that are against home schooling my say because home school. Kind of flourish, abuse or whatever the case may be. Mm-hmm. And there might be some truth to that, but. Sending your kids to school flourish abuse to sure how many kids have been abused in school, what is private school or public school? Look at Loudon County. They’ve abused in the public schools all.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[MCG]

The time? Mm-hmm.

[Jay]

And the covering up of it too.

[MCG]

Exactly. So I don’t think one is, at least when it comes to abuse, I don’t think one is better than the other. The normal protocols need to be followed in both situation and parents need to protect their child. Some abuse. Barring that, the parents is not the one you know abusing the child, but also I’ll say this too. I’ll give them this. I think the grandparents have overstepped boundaries, though. Big time. I understand you prefer not to have your grandkids go to public school, but you’re not their parents. Your kids are the parent. And if the parent decides that they’re gonna do it and.

[Jay]

Mm-hmm.

[MCG]

They give the public school. That’s not something. You get all kind of people involved. That’s something you’re going pray about and and manage and live alone. You’re stepping over bungies when have a grandparent, you’re telling your kids what they can and cannot do with your grandchildren. You’re not their parents, so you know as much as possible. My kids grow up. I would love to see my grandkids home school just like I’m home schooling my kids. But at the end of the day. It’s not my decision, as one grandparent said to me, you know. Once you know I raised them right, I put in the time and the effort and the energy to see them grow up and love the Lord and serve the Lord. But now with their kids, they are accountable for their kids. Of course, grandparents should be influential in their kids life and stuff like that. But at the end of the day, you’re not the parent. So I understand you don’t want them to go to public school, but. Yeah, you know the parent. Why in the world are you making this such a? I don’t even think this is a church issue, to be honest, this is a issue where the kids have decided, hey, we don’t want to home school, OK, go and pray and admonish. But at the end of the day, it’s sending their kids to public schools. I guess the end product will determine it. Maybe they can go to public school and they. Might be some strong kids and they might be a witness to the public school. Who knows? I think it’s a dangerous proposition to send your kids to public school, especially in today’s world. But I think the grandparents overstepped. And I think the parents are a bit shortsighted. But in terms of getting rid of public schools and stuff like that, that’s a broader topic. We’re in order for this to be even become. And. Significant thing you have to get all the way to the Supreme Court. So I’m not too worried about it at this at this point. Yeah.

[Jay]

Yeah. And I hope people don’t misunderstand me. I’m not saying that the possibility of abuse is not there. It most certainly is. But to throw the baby out with the bath water is. I mean, we shouldn’t and we don’t have the luxury of doing that.

[MCG]

At the same time, no one is calling to close down public schools because abuse happens so.

[Jay]

Exactly. That’s what I was just about to say no. Ones calling to shut down these schools, although now some people are really calling for that. Now that we see how trash the system is, but not only in populated areas like Baltimore and other inner city areas, these schools are called the what is it called? The classroom to prison pipeline. That’s how bad these schools are. But no one is calling for them to be shut down. And so. While there are instances. Of just incredible abuse, it may be fringe beliefs that are harmful to the community and to the child. That is not the norm, and I don’t think that they should be establishing any type of regulation based on that alone. I think what happened is that in this particular instance of these two, they were probably. Raised in an environment where their ideology and their standards were being preached as though it were truth, the gospel, and they were taught to see people around them as their enemy as. And infiltrate or someone trying to deceive you instead of souls in need of a savior. And so when they obviously entered into adult life, they didn’t know how to cope. When they realized it wasn’t quite as dramatic as their friends and families were making it out. To be but. That’s what makes the world such a deceptive enemy, because it’s very, very muted it. Not like you would call bare faced. I mean, in some cases it is, but generally your public school system looks. Fun and normal, and that seems to be what everyone is doing, and there’s nothing wrong with it, but it’s insidious and it’s a little bit at a time to inoculate them against Christ, so that when you. State you’ll be graduating Romans who have spent all of their time with Caesar, and you’ll wonder why they’re walking away from the faith while they’re walking away from the truth. Well, it’s because you didn’t teach them the truth. Number one. And #2 you handed them over to an entity that hates you and your God and is seeking to indoctrinate your children. And that truth and that or that truth, what they call truth. And in that line of thinking. And so the article is. Very black and white. So you’re either a backward home schooler teaching all of these ridiculous things, and I’ll use this because they’re famous family. You’re either like the Duggar family or you should be putting your kids in public school. There’s nowhere in the middle where you could be following biblical principles and training your children up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord and doing home school the right way. It’s either or, and so homeschooling is painted with this broad brush that is meant to be faced with distrust, disdain, and, of course, they feel like the government has to step in to, quote, Save the Children, which is, I found to be #1 bonkers number. Sad #3 it’s a little bit of a glimpse of what home school is going to be like in the next several years because they want the children so that they could have their weight with.

[MCG]

Them. Ohh yeah. Anyways this honorable mentions.

[Jay]

Yeah. Yes.

[MCG]

All right. I have two. First one, New York’s governor said black kids in the Bronx do not know the word computer anyways. Some of the arguments I’ve been hearing is that she meant they don’t know what a desktop computer is, which I guess to some extent they can say, yeah, that’s true. We don’t have any desktop computers in our home. And I guess, you know, our kids wouldn’t necessarily know what one looked like if you meant that. I guess that’s fair.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[MCG]

But she could have said that because you know the black kids in the Browns put all this stuff on TikTok and. YouTube and Twitter and all the social media they have, they definitely know what a computer is. So anyway, they call her racist and all that stuff. But I found that to be a little bit bonkers. She should have. Bird does a little bit better, I’m sure they definitely know what computers are. They definitely know what the Internet is. So anyways, that Kathy hotel for you. And then also this one I find Kinder weird, but Will Smith calls his exchange wife, Jada Pinkett Smith. One of his ride or die. Despite secret seven-year separation, now I’m not going to get into the man’s personal life, but you know, for me to come to the someone right or die, I don’t think them treating on me, going outside of the bounds of the marriage. I don’t think them putting me out there the way Jada has done to Wilson. There. Are the holes of other things out there about their life right now? I don’t know if I would trust that person enough to call them my ride or die, but hey, teach their own, I guess. But those are my 2 honorable mentions.

[Jay]

I only have one dishonorable mention. This is a post about COVID-19, again from the New York Post. We now know the likely truth about COVID and how scientists lied. This is published May 16th of 2024 and. I will not rehash all of the COVID nonsense. We’ve done that over many different podcasts, but. Nothing has opened my eyes to the depth and the breadth of the rot of the institutions of the United States as the COVID pandemic did. So four years after the fact, they’re publishing articles about how COVID was a lie, and this is how science is lied. Listen to the list of lies that they say that scientists and the government told us #1. That COVID is naturally occurring #2. The virus didn’t come from the lab in Wuhan #3 that the US didn’t fund gain of function research. Number four that. I just lost it. Anyhow, all of these things were things that people were trying to say at the outset of the pandemic, but they were shut down by a coordinated effort from the government, from big tech, from Big Pharma, and from the media. All of the institutions came together to silence people. Who had been saying those things from the beginning of the pandemic and now, four years later, now they’re beginning to say, oh, well, maybe you all had a small point there and that to me is just bonkers. And I can’t get into that article. Otherwise we’ll be here for another two hours. But that’s my dishonorable mention. The New York Post article, we now know. Well, the likely truth, they can’t even admit it that it’s fully true. The likely truth about COVID and how scientists.

[MCG]

Well. Lied. I think they should revert it and see they know.

[Jay]

Know. Yeah, they now know.

[MCG]

Exactly everyone else. Everyone else. New. Especially those that didn’t buy into all the lies. But anyways, as I’ve asked in all seven other episode of Bunkers, Do you agree with us? Do you think that this world is bonkers?

[Jay]

Or. Anywhere the bunkers.

[MCG]

Ones probably you know, if you’re safe, you’re born again. I will encourage you to go separate your Jerusalem with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Maybe we can win them one by one and maybe make this world a little bit less bonkers. But if not, at least we’ll take them to heaven with us. The Bible said it’s Mark 16:15, and he said unto them, go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. May I encourage you to go and preach?

[Jay]

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[MCG]

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