Episode 151

In this episode of the Removing Barriers Podcast, we have the newest installment of the How Were Your Barriers Removed series. Today, we interview Pastor Harrigan to find out how the barriers to salvation he experienced were removed. Pastor Harrigan has been long-time acquaintance and friend to the hosts of the podcast and has agreed to put his testimony out into the world yet again, this time in long-form content. Pastor Harrigan was born and raised in Haiti, a small Caribbean country in the Western Hemisphere with an equally inspiring and troubling history. In recent decades, the country has taken a marked turn for the worse, but in spite of this, God continues to remove barriers and save souls. Pastor Harrigan, being one of those souls, now labors faithfully to see barriers like those he faced removed so that others can have a clear view of the cross. Join us on this episode of the Removing Barriers podcast to hear how God saved him!

[Pastor Harrigan]

In Haiti you need God to survive

[Jay]

Right, right.

[Pastor Harrigan]

to live. But here in America you can live without God.

[Jay]

Thank you for tuning in to the Removing Barriers podcast. I’m Jay and I’m MCG, and we’re attempting to remove barriers so we can all have a clear view of the cross.

[MCG]

This is episode 151 of the Removing Barriers Podcast, and this is a 36 in the series of how were your barriers removed? And in this episode, we’ll find out how Pastor Harrigan’s barriers were removed when he came to a saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.

[Jay]

Hi, this is Jay. MCG and I would like for you to help us remove barriers by going to removingbarriers.net and subscribing to receive all things removing barriers. If you’d like to take your efforts a bit further and help us keep the mics on, consider donating at removingbarriers.net/donate. Removing Barriers, a clear view of the cross.

[MCG]

Pastor Harrigan, welcome to the Removing Barriers podcast.

[Pastor Harrigan]

Well, thank you so much. The great honor and privilege. To be part of this great ministry, removing barriers were MCG and Jay they together. They will, we desire, is here to show the gospel, to let people know about the greatness. And the importance? Of being a child of God and I’m honor. We village to be part of this great, great ministry tonight.

[MCG]

Well, thank you, Pastor. And just add that when Jen, I got married, what, 11 years ago? Almost now. Pastor Harrigan was the pastor who declared us husband and wife.

[Pastor Harrigan]

I was glad to be part of that. I remember the people too. I got to be thankful. That’s the first time I’ve been to. A wedding where I had the privilege to serve and what you color bad, bad breakfast where they. That was a great, great privilege. To be part of this wonderful blessing, wonderful wedding. How the Lord put you guys together and how the Lord use you 2 together as family. And I’m honor. I was able to do that.

[MCG]

Alright. Well, let’s get into Pastor Harrigan. Tell us what state or country were you born in?

[Pastor Harrigan]

Well, as you know, I was born, raised in Haiti, grew up in Haiti. I lived here for all my. I was almost 16 years old missionary out of Cleveland. OH, or she came to Haiti and year of 16 as a what you call a short term missionary. At that time, she was only 16, and she came to Haiti, then went back to United States. The Lord called. And she attended Moody Bible Institute in the 50s. And stayed and graduate and get married. Her husband is really went to Haiti, or at least 30 years, 40 years or more. And they invited me to Bible camp and I went to a Bible camp. And here in the state we call it Vacation Bible School. But in Haiti, we call it Bible camp. And where she showed me this. Your salvation. By grace through faith in the middle of the food with women, sit and worship, and you name it back then and. And that’s perfect. Wise and having receive cries as my personal savior. I moved to the states where I was living. Far from Penn State University, Little place called State College area, where my desire was to go to Penn State University to take mechanical engineering. And I never forget. But while I was at Penn State, and when I was there, ready to go to Penn State, and then eventually came and switched on the sweetness of serving Jesus. So he gave the invitation. They replace called Jersey Shore PA, about less than 50 people. So you give the invitation. I can forward again myself to go full time ministry to administer that call. And I want to invite the Bible College Seminary. So it came back to Florida. As a missionary to serve my people down here.

[MCG]

Great. So you were born in Haiti, grew up there until you’re 16, you said. Tell us about your family. What kind of family were you born in? Was this?

[Pastor Harrigan]

I didn’t have a privilege to be born in the my father was not born again, Christian, but. However, the missionary who led me to college was very influential to us, and she led my mom to class 1st, then later on my father. But I was really three missionary. We were family, was able to get involved in ministry and church and so on. But and in essence I would say in my early age. Before 16, we were not involved in cushion and cushion life.

[Jay]

So before your salvation, would you say that your life and upbringing were quite secular? Or perhaps your family was maybe religious, maybe participated in the voodoo religion, or maybe Catholic or any type of religion at all in your family upbringing?

[Pastor Harrigan]

Well, my father was Karthik. Pretty much yes, about my mom. Dad were not deeply involved in the food was on. But my uncle and auntie, but they were pulling deep involved in it. But my father they were not really deeply involved. But my father was Catholic and my mom, she was Catholic as well.

[Jay]

I see.

[Pastor Harrigan]

We were aware of it because my uncle, my auntie. And the village all grew up, you know, every time they get the ceremony as a kid, we can see it wide open. You know, they do it all night long, you know.

Speaker

Right.

[Jay]

Right. I know that in Haiti there are people who profess to be saved, but what they’ll do is they’ll take Jesus as maybe one more addition to their plethora of God. So they’ll take a little bit of Jesus along with whatever religion, whether it’s Catholicism or voodoo or whatever historical religion, their families. Participate and then they call themselves Chris. Which is what makes evangelizing in Haiti, I would imagine somewhat difficult getting people to understand what the gospel is apart from all these other different religions that actually take away from the gospel. So it sounds like you didn’t hear anything about the gospel until this missionary spoke to you and brought you to Christ and. It was through this Bible. That you heard the gospel. Could you describe that time for me? Was it her speaking to you? one-on-one, or was it a preacher at the Bible camp from which you heard the gospel? Could you describe how you heard the gospel for the first time?

[Pastor Harrigan]

It wasn’t like as a kid I thought Bible kid she was there some sort of Bible, a lesson in a sense. You know, as you go through a character or the Bible, you get a picture of the Bible and you show you, you know, tell you about that person life. So it was through that series of, I should say, the character of the Bible, and they probably. Somebody and it will show that the life Jesus, how we color manuals. And she was sure, you know. But it wasn’t just me or Rhonda, or it was more than just me in that class where we see her. Then she gave the invitation. I said, you guys, she crossed the personal cigar and we there were about, you know, ten of us in that class above eight or seven of us agree, but one or two didn’t do it. But because in Haiti their family members, you do not do it, that will start permission from your parents. So those kids, they were not. They were elected today at that time. But us we were. You know, I did it some other guys but it was like a. How telling about the life of the Lord Jesus Christ. What kind of man he was, and he came to Earth and and so on. Now that I’ve had enough knowledge, you know. Of price. At that time, I do know, she tell us the need and necessity. To give our life children.

[MCG]

Was that the first time you came to a full realization of your sin, or was there another time when you realize, hey, I may be a kid, but I’m not a good person, so to speak.

[Pastor Harrigan]

Well, that was the time I really admitted that I shouldn’t need that. I realized, you know, I must come to Christ because the missionary said. You know, I can remember exactly what she said as long as you leave. You know you have a chance, but once you’re dead, it’s over. Another time, I said to myself, suppose I got killed tonight. Suppose I die tonight, you know? And that came to my mind. And then when you realize, you know, as long as you live, you’re good. But what about what you. You know you have no idea when it’s here, when your life ends and it’s us, it’s gonna come to an end, you know? So that was the time, really. I said. Ohh. OK. I don’t want to live with us without knowing that. Where am I going? You know? And I give my life to Christ.

[Jay]

Pastor, would you say that there were any barriers preventing you from being saved, and if so, what were they?

[Pastor Harrigan]

Well, was, you know, as a kid in Haiti before 16 hours on living for God, any sense of the word, I couldn’t see the difference to live, you know, as a kid, you know, we would not follow exactly procedure. When you go to school and first one of my grade school, I did not go to a Christian School. So I went to a secular. Also up to 1012 and I’ll just follow the group you want to finance, so you know the desire to follow, you’re the group to finance so. Or in a sense, keep me from Willy. Obey. Come to cry. But now, that doesn’t mean once in a while I will not go to church, you know, but not, you know, to go to church in this sense to know who’s and why. You know, I don’t have a purpose at that time. But what’s and what I would go to church. But at that time we desire to follow the other group. To fit in, you know, to make sure you know they cannot to be accepted by them. The people are sure I should say that was in my handicap to really to bring me to resistance and bring me to rebellion. Bring me to refusal to Willy. Fallow price properly?

[MCG]

So you also mentioned that when you came to us, you were in Pennsylvania. Could you tell us a little bit about that? How did that tie in with your salvation and your? Call to the ministry.

[Pastor Harrigan]

And that was I went to. Vocational school. I was taking, like electricity in the morning, 8:00 to 12:00 and then start from 1:00. I will take a Bible. So that would really encourage more than that player, I should say a very important part of my life and come to. Domestically, because some guys go to school. Or just, you know, to learn about the Bible. Some kids, their parents send them to the school just to learn about the Bible but not to become a minister or to be full time and ministry, stuff like that. So I was one of the kids and I was at that school. I was taking electricity, but in the afternoon we’re taking the Bible, but not in the sense to become a preacher. But well, after I graduate and that’s. And I wish you the call to go. To full time ministry. So that’s why I yield myself and go to completely to Bible colleges and seminary and so on.

[MCG]

Sound great? Tell us about your church. You’ve been passing the church in Fort Lauderdale, FL for many years. Tell us about your church and how can. Folks find you there.

[Pastor Harrigan]

Well, you know right now we are a Haitian church in this sense and we have what you call transcultural in a sense, we have service with them and clear, but they’re little kids, but here we have sales for them in, in English and Sunday school, stuff like that. So but we are here for longer hours. We were through us because. Was getting a permanent building, but we’ve been renting for a while and now we’re almost to the edge where we’re getting a building to be permanent. So that’s what fraud. I really it’s become, you know, bit harder places. Like when it comes to building, you have to have at least one acre of land to build and 1.52 point $5 million for when. You cut down here. So let’s make it easier for us to build the where we like to, but we find.

Speaker

You know.

[Pastor Harrigan]

Right now we have a building, you know, we’re working hard to fix it and turn over to a permanent place, which for now we went in mainly where we meet. And the afternoon and during the week, about 30 and so on. But we’ve been there for a while and so hoping the Lord opening the door for us, you know.

[MCG]

What’s the name of your church?

[Pastor Harrigan]

Grace Haitian Baptist Church.

[MCG]

Alright, well, you’re listening to the Removing Barriers podcast. We’re sitting down with Pastor Harrigan and you’re finding out how were his barriers. We’ll move. We’ll be right back.

[Jay]

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[Pastor Harrigan]

Well, you know. I should say for myself, you know, salvation, our future. I don’t know this manifest. In different ways in life, different people in the sense. But on my situation after salvation, I had more desire to attend church, more to read more Bible and to willing to avoid wrong crowd. No, I had no desire to be friends from other guys were ungodly non Christian friends. Now I still keep. Man, where we talk and stuff like that, but they all they can send me you not the person like desire to go to fellowship different group and that was taken away from me and I’ll just focus really hard more desire to. Go to church more often. Read my Bible friend and the book and I just. I select friend who’s my friend. I have no desire to be part of from the friend I have, you know, becoming like a group, a handful of friends. Were in my part, so that was the first step. In my salvation. To separate from our friends and to be focused on as usual aspect of my life.

[MCG]

Being that young, was that separation difficult for you to separate from your old friends and adopt new ones?

[Pastor Harrigan]

Well, that’s what I was missing. As a matter of fact, I didn’t even realize it, but they were. They were not telling me, you know. And they said, look, we see and you have no desire to, you know, to really to be part of us no more. And that’s what I found with that myself, you know. Yes, you are. Because I have a really just want to I do something. And when they saw me and I just, you know, always when you go to church. So that’s kind of changed how the young age tell the difference. You know about me who I am and you know, it was not easy change, but you right. But in my case really. No, I’m not saying working. Some people a young age this question, but they did not do it that way. But what? That’s what. So I’m not using the word salvation manifest in different ways, different people. But again, in my case at that time our friendship was not more interesting to me like it was in the all. In the past.

[MCG]

All right, so you said you were safe to a missionary coming to Haiti, and that’s the testimony for a lot of people your age in the Caribbean were saved through missionaries going to the Caribbean, Haiti. Many other countries, stating churches, presenting gospel. Think about the state of Haiti now. Do you think that the way your buyers were removed, the way you heard the gospel, do you think that it would be effective for someone else in the culture today in Haiti?

[Pastor Harrigan]

Well, yes, it would be. Except they would not have the opportunity that I had back then. You had the in the 70s. You what? You sell, Mr. that you were tourism. With it, it was nothing but tourism. Wherever you go, if I tours all over the country and they walk in our bare feet, it’s a privilege for them to come down there with bare feet early in the morning and the sun and so enjoying the sun and stuff like that. But now the desire for that mission, there might be the same to lead people to Christ. But I have to go, you know. And security, you know, and dangerous life where you kidnappers. So that would be, you know, hard for our Haitian young man that that age to find that. Privilege. I had those days where where you had, you know, missionaries was all over the country and the countryside. And for the capital. So now. But the desire for the mission, that would be the same. But however insecurity, you know, and dangerous life, you know, so that would stop that. Location do we see? If that kind of opportunity that I had in the past. Though the missionary would love to do it, but there would be too many, too many, as she goes right now stepping away.

[Jay]

Yes, I’m sure we see so many news articles and videos of the devastation taking place in Haiti right now as gangs run amok in the capital and in other areas of the country. And it’s just a situation that we really have to. Pray that the. Lord would continue to send laborers. I realize it’s really. So difficult when there’s no security, but I’m just thinking about all those souls that are left there. That need the gospel. I pray that we find a solution soon.

[Pastor Harrigan]

And I was 100%, you know, even the native pasture and stuff he goes to church down there. You know, he doesn’t know he’s coming back home. You know, they kidnapping many of, you know, pastors and don’t mind the buses has money and so on like this. So you got 100%. But however the myth of everything you find some questions they go. And praying, but their own risk, in a sense, you know, but their own risk.

[Jay]

Right, right.

[Pastor Harrigan]

But really, it’s the souls need to be saved. The work to be done, but the bad guy, you know and you know, become an article for the ministry to, you know, carry out.

[Jay]

But you know, Pastor, you’re doing the work of the Lord in Fort Lauderdale, Southern Florida, that has a significant Haitian population. Could you tell us what are some of the things that you’re doing personally in the area of evangelism, pastoring, etcetera that would help remove barriers like the ones you face in your younger life? What are some of the things that you’re doing to help remove those barriers in the lives of other people?

[Pastor Harrigan]

No, we must admit it. We have a lot of Haitian who really still have here to, you know, for the gospel, go to church no matter what or however, because it’s different, I should say different lifestyle. And when you have some people who really it’s open, they have to work 2-3 jobs, that’s you know. No secret about that well. However, you do find some other Asian become laid back, you know, because of the I should say the American life and the, you know, you do have some Haitian who are still. For who will not miss his service, no matter what how tired they are from work and so on. So we try to, you know, keep their faith and tell them to keep their faith, keep on worship God, and never go sidetrack, you know, because you’re in America doesn’t mean, you know your desire to serve God should you know. Go less. So we try to encourage them. To be fair. And never stop. I should say, serving God, loving God, listen desire you had when you were in Haley. Never let thy out in your.

[Jay]

Life pastor when you say that some people, they are in the country and they’ve become LAX, a little bit. Is it because their safety and security here as opposed to whatever country they came from? So they feel like, OK, I’m in a safe place now. I could relax and then they let everything go. They kind of become what the Bible calls full and they forget their maker type of thing. Is that what you’re referring to?

[Pastor Harrigan]

In a sense, but also you do have some more relation over any country longer you know, just to say, listen, in Haiti, you need God to.

Speaker

Right, right.

[Pastor Harrigan]

To survive to live. But here in America you can live without it. You do find some, you know, I mean some people who, because they become easy, easy in their lives, because I should say the financial status is getting better while they’re here. So then you forgot no more. That’s the danger I tried to. Tell them you know not to be involved, because the danger to say no. You know, I have a job and I can take him myself. No, you forgot no more. I just told them. You know, you never never come to a point in your life where you feel that way.

[MCG]

What are some things and some ministries in Haiti that are trying to reach the Haitian people that you know of, that you may be involved with? Tell us about those.

[Pastor Harrigan]

Well, right now, don’t we know much? And it says now you do have a mission board. We saved our missionaries in that. But again, that that go back to insecurity. You do have some missionaries on there who are there for you. The old missionaries with their kids. We we refuse to really to take over the work because the life is in jeopardy. So I do have some missionaries. Now, as we speak right now, it’s hard for me to tell because all of them had gone to Dominican Republic. Which is a little bit, you know, safer than now. We have a lot of Asian living over there. So instead of in Haiti itself, you have a lot of missionaries who move to the future. They West of the country. They’re making the public because they have a lot of Asian over their waste a bit. Safer, so you might know one or two missionaries sit down there, but not that. Me the work right now try to turn off about the nationals. The Haitian themselves, you know, instead of run by the missionaries.

[MCG]

Yeah. All right, Pastor Hogan. Let’s go into a little bit of fun section that further some of your favorites. Tell us, what is your favorite scripture verse?

[Pastor Harrigan]

Well, that’s a good question. First Timothy 112. I love that voice cause he said where Paul gave the testimony, what he was before. Christ put him in ministry, but for a while I do. I have that verse. But now I’m the generation 220. So where he says I’m crucified with Christ. Nevertheless, I live the life I live in now. I live by the son of God who loves me and give yourself for me. That become my favorite verse generation 220 before. While I had first Monty 112. Your relation to talk and has become my Willy, my favorite favorite verse for now. You you with me.

[MCG]

Hey man.

[Jay]

For now, until the Holy Spirit gives you another, the way he normally does. What is your favorite historical biblical account? People call them Bible stories, but we don’t like to call them that because we believe that everything in the scriptures are true. It’s history. It really happened. So we say what is your? Of written biblical historical account.

[Pastor Harrigan]

We know for always been my favorite biblical historical life, you know, because I picked up a support. Because is what? What it was in the past and what it is today. Just to show you the power of the gospel. The gospel can change lives. You know, when I go to prison ministry. And he I have those guys, they just give him 20 years in prison with me. So in this man, after 30 years, been sentenced for 30 years for whatever crime he committed. So you think this guy will be, you know, discouraged? Forget it. I don’t need God. But give your message when you go to prison. Those guys if you miss one service, the first thing we say we’re Pastor Hurricane. We miss you. You know, but it meant his 30 years. But he sees hope, and faith is always in God’s historically poor, always been my character, in a sense, where he always remind me. The country of Haiti, like you said, what can change? Life is only the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the power of the gospel, and that’s what can change lives. And that’s what I always I always like the apostle Paul. And my question for years and. She always says and first Timothy 112, you know? So how he gave thanks to God, you know. And they blame him. I love him. You know, counting him to put him at the ministry. So. But who was Faldo? So as you know, he’s like for scaric evil, wicked man. But. Using and that’s what me and in Haiti, the person foreign food wisdom, for example, that person come to Christ, hear the gospel, and change his life. You know, that’s a blessing to me to see that.

[MCG]

Well, what would you say is the most convicting scripture passage to you?

[Pastor Harrigan]

Oh, I think good question. So first Timothy 112 really is really that’s what William, yeah, so. I love the most. You can just show me you know who I was today is what happened today. Because of the gospel. What it was say I am what I am. By the grace of God.

[MCG]

Alright, so you said first Timothy won 12 and I thanked Christ Jesus, our Lord, who had enabled me that he counted me faithful, putting me in a ministry. Exactly. As a. Dig into that and tell us why is that so special to you? Because I imagine you look at your background, maybe born in Haiti in a third world country, one of the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere, you were saved through an American missionary. You had the privilege of moving to the US and have your family. Go into the motions behind of that and everything behind of that. When the scriptures say he counted you faithful, putting you in the ministry.

[Pastor Harrigan]

Well, I see two aspect of life. First of all being in that I said me grew up in Haiti like I would not have any chance. I never thought God, we live. You know, see me as a minister. I thought maybe grew up in, hey, there are probably 2-4 to be, you know, part of this great Gospel of Christ. And that’s why I said to myself, grew up in Haiti, in the voodooism, and I could have been involved in the Voodoo, satanic worship down there, you know, and. Me up. I love that I love this one. Show me how where Paul was and he says how deep it was now he was involved, not the world worshipping, but the country itself. When you’re in that country and I said the kid, now my mom that were not angry, but my uncle, my auntie or, you know, the surrounding was deeply involved in it. But go take me. You know. Out of that completely, now that bring me to United States. Now when I come to United States, many of my friends in school in Haiti, they want to. I should have become lawyers and doctors and engineers, stuff like that. That’s what you know. But that’s it. That was not interesting me either. You know the money they they don’t trust me when I come when. I said but. Wanting people to Christ was really there was a blessing to me. See, I use myself an example to see there are different ways I could have, you know, go astray. But yet God spare me and put me in the gods and ministry.

[Jay]

Amen. What is the most comforting scripture verse for you? I know that you probably find a lot of comfort in first Timothy 112, but.

[Pastor Harrigan]

No, not I do 8-9 and get. It until 20.

[Jay]

Ah, I see. Is that the most comforting scripture for you?

[Pastor Harrigan]

Yeah. Yeah, that will. You know, it just sometime remind you in life when people say goodbye to you, but you have a God who loves you, you know. And who can? Count on you. You can count on. When men, you know, stab you, or you know when men betray you or whatever happened to you in life.

Speaker

Right.

[Pastor Harrigan]

You have a God whom we can give better trust and counter gets 1 to 20.

[Jay]

What is your favorite hymn of the faith?

[Pastor Harrigan]

Ohh that’s a good question. I used to love. That’s a use that’s for Infinity and fraud. And no, we not, my Lord, was crucified.

[MCG]

At Calvary.

[Pastor Harrigan]

Exactly that part you know, and I was. Lost. Why? Didn’t know there was, you know, something better for me. But I did. I was ignorance in the sense. But when I was always from God, I live it proudly away from God. So that’s what? No, you not. You know, my other was crucified for me. Not cars, so there are many others hands, but again, but this one. So that’s remind me.

[MCG]

All right. I think the next question, your favorite giant of the faith, would that be Paul or would you have another favorite giant of the faith?

[Pastor Harrigan]

Ohh what is #1? But I do have some from a human perspective. I do have some passes. You know who you know who influenced me? Like for example you take me now in Kingara out of Ohio. And you know, he he become my hero as he should. What minister was. But when I first before I went to Bible College, I never wore a jacket. And shouldn’t I? I never knew what that was. You know that wasn’t meant for student that wasn’t meant for, you know, as you get, you get the shirt that will, you know, you’re good enough, you know and. But when you put them on their shoulder, teacher ministry is and. Bible collar should give you my first jacket sport jacket. Any tie? Well then. So to me, those kind of men who trained you and put you on the shoulder.

[MCG]

Right.

[Pastor Harrigan]

You could never forget this kind of man in your life.

[MCG]

Hmm, I think he just don’t know how hot the islands are for us to wear shoes and tire.

[Pastor Harrigan]

You’re right too, you know. Well, I didn’t say that. No, he did say you want the product. One he. Didn’t wash it in that. Yeah, we definitely understand.

[MCG]

Alright, Pastor again, let’s wrap it up and tell us how can barriers overall be removed in the life of others?

[Pastor Harrigan]

Well, that’s a good question, but it might be in a sense difficult to get the exact answer you know and like I always believe in life. And we all have problems. We all have difficult. We all have, you know, hardship in life. Sometimes you look at this personal life and you take it better from you. But what he or she is going through even harder than yours. So. And that’s what we always I always told those people. You know the key is to focus on Jesus. Because that’s somewhere you can get. You know you can go step forward in your life. My philosophy is the gospel. That’s what can carry through, can have somebody to carry through. And anywhere in life could you look at the way today and now, you know, I say it’s like you and I know it, you know, wonderful country, great country. But yes, you have more teenage suicide, you know, then you know. What I mean, every year, thousand young teenagers and commit suicide. You wonder why, you know. And but again. The Gospel, I think that’s what you and I should know. It’s it’s only way that people can, you know. Live Victoria’s life and happy to go through to carry. On and off.

[MCG]

Yeah, definitely. Pastor Harrigan, it was indeed a pleasure. Thank you for joining us on the Removing Barriers podcast.

[Pastor Harrigan]

Well, MCG, as you know and AJ, you guys know what your family meant to me. I’m always on my privilege to hear from you guys. And to really to be part of this great ministry, the Lord, and I’m thankful to God for allow you and and you to you know, you guys to share the gospel. And now it’s it is a great, great way to share the gospel and I’m thankful for that. Thank you.

[Jay]

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[MCG]

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