Episode 141

Abundant on the internet are video clips of LGBTQIA persons in clerical positions saying and doing wildly outlandish and blasphemous things. In this episode of the Removing Barriers podcast, we examine one such man who claims that God is all things LGBTQIA. The implication, of course, is that the ideology is above reproach, and all of what we have understood God to be for centuries is now wrong, hateful, and unacceptable. Is that true? What does the Bible say about the nature of God and how we relate to Him? Join us as we dig into these questions and more.

[Jay]

For him to say that God is all of these things, all of which are contradictory, it’s not possible to be gay and straight. It’s not possible to be trans, gender, and cisgender at the same time. He’s basically saying because all of these things mutually cancel each other out, that God is nothing.

Thank you for tuning in to the Removing Barriers podcast. I’m Jay, and I’m MCG. And we’re attempting to remove barriers so we can all have a clear view of the cross.

[MCG]

This is episode 141 of the removing barriers pod. And in this episode. We will be discussing a claim by the LGBTQ IA community that God is actually a member of that group.

[Jay]

Hi, this is Jay. MCG and I would like for you to help us remove barriers by going to removingbarriers.net and subscribing to receive all things removing barriers. If you’d like to take your efforts a bit further and help us keep the mics on, consider donating at removing barriers.net/donate, removing barriers, a clear view of the cross.

[MCG]

All right, first for this one, here is the audio of quote and UN quote the clergy, most likely a member of the LGBTQ I plus community saying some blasphemous things.

[Clergy Heretic]

God is gay. OK. God is a lesbian. God is trans. God is gender, non binary. God is straight, God is cisgender, God is black, God is white, God is Middle Eastern, God is Asian. God is differently able, mentally and physically. God is able bodied God. Is you and you are God because you are a reflection of God’s divine image.

[Jay]

Is God a member of the LGBTQ plus community?

[MCG]

Well, the quick answer is absolutely not. There are many things the Bible describe God to be, but being a member of the LGBT QA plus community, being black, being white, or any of the other things that this heretic mentioned is not one of them. But here’s the truth. And here’s something that I believe that many times when we hear. Quote UN quote. Clergy or someone? Use the term God. And we jump and we kinda assume that they’re talking about the God of the Bible. But to be honest, this close is not wrong. And here’s why. In the US, and gets to say by extension of West many times when we hear God and I’m putting that in small G. We assume he’s talking about the God of the Bible, but. He’s not talking about the God of the Bible. He’s talking about the God that he created in his own mind. A God that accepts and promotes his lifestyle today. For in a nutshell, this is as adultery. And we know that much, even the former President Obama. Said as much when he says that we are no longer a nation of 1 God.

[Former President Obama]

Where we once were, we are no. Longer a Christian nation. At least not just. We are also a Jewish nation and a Muslim nation and a Buddhist nation and a Hindu nation and a nation of non believers.

[MCG]

So what President Obama is saying that we, you know, at one point, maybe we’re a Christian nation, quote UN quote, but we’re no longer that. And I think that many times as Christians, we just need to move away from the fact that when we hear someone use the three letter God, that they assuming is the God of the Bible because the characteristics of the God of the Bible. And the God this clergy describe. Are not the same. It’s almost a rose by any other name is still a rose God by any other name is still a God. No, not really. We have to look at the characteristics of the God of the Bible. The Bible declares that God is love first, John 4/8 he doth loveth not knoweth not God, for God is love. Or the 1st Gen. 416 Romans 5/8 God is light first Gen. 1/5. This, then is a message which we have heard of him and declare unto you that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. Also Psalms 94, verse one. God is just first John. 19 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness due to one return to you two verse. For he is the rock. His work is perfect for all his ways of judgment, a God of truth, and without any equity, just and right is he. God is holy first, Peter, 115 and 16. But as he which had called you is holy, so be holy in all manner of conversation, because it is written. Be holy for I am holy. See also Isaiah 57 verse 15 that says for thus said the Lord, the high and lofty one that inhabited eternity, whose name is Holy God is a spirit John 424. God is a spirit, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth God is. Omnipotent Matthew 19, verse 26, but Jesus beheld him, and said unto them, with men this is impossible, but with God, all things are possible. Jeremiah 32, verse 27. Behold, I am the Lord, the God of all. Flesh. Is there anything to hide for me? God is omnipresent for verse 15, verse three, the eyes of the Lord are in every place, beholding the evil and the good. Jeremiah 23 and verse 24. Can any hide himself in secret places that I cannot see him? Said the Lord. Do not I feel heaven and earth, said the Lord. God is omniscient, for if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart and know it all that. Things psalms 139, verse one to four O Lord, thou hast search me and known me. Thou knowest my Don sitting and my uprising thou understandings my thoughts are far off. Thou compass at my pad and my line down, and are acquainted with all my ways. For there is not a word in my tongue. LO Lord, don’t noise it all together. God is creator, Genesis 11. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. John, 13, all things were made by him and without him was not anything made that was made. God is the ancient of days, meaning he’s outside of time. Danielle 7, verse 13 I saw in the night vision and behold, one like the son of man came with the clouds of heaven and came to the ancient of days. And they brought him near before him. You can see the entire chapter of Daniel 7 as well. God is infinite, psalms 145, verse 3. Great is the Lord and greatly to be praised, and his greatness is unsearchable. Also features 3. Verse eight. God is immutable. Malachi 3/6 for I am the Lord. I change not. Therefore his sons of Jacob are not consumed. He builds 13 and verse 8 Jesus the same yesterday, today and forever. God is self-sufficient revelation one verse eight. I am alpha and Omega. The beginning and the ending. Said the Lord, which is and which was and which is to come the Almighty. See also acts 17 and verse 34. God is wise woman 16, verse 27 to God only wise be glow we to Jesus Christ forever. Amen. Also, Psalms 147, verse 5. Great is our Lord and of great power. His understanding is infinite. God is faithful due to running seven and verse nine. No dear fool that the Lord thy God, he is God, the faithful God which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keepeth his commandments to 1000 generation. You can also see John one and verse nine. God is truth as I is 65. Of 16 that he who blessed himself in the Earth shall bless himself in the God of truth, and he that swear it in the Earth shall swear by the God of truth, because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from my eyes. Also, John 7, verse 20. 8 Then cry Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying he both know me and he know whence I am, and I am not come of myself, but he that send me is true, whom he know not. God is salvation. Psalm 27 and verse one. The Lord is my strength and my salvation. Whom shall I fear? Isaiah 12 and verse 2 Behold, God is my salvation. I will trust and not be afraid for the Lord. Jehovah is my strength and my son. He’s also become my salvation. God is merciful. Ephesians 2, verse 415. But God, who is rich in mercy for his great love with which he loves us. Even when we were dead in our sins had quickened us together with Christ, by grace, he save God is good. Then whom one. Seven. The Lord is good. A stronghold in the day of trouble, and he knowed them that trust in him. First chronicles 16 and verse 34. Or give thanks unto the Lord, for he is good for his mercy and Duret forever. God is comfort. 2nd Corinthians 1. Three to four. Blessed be the God. Even the father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the father of mercies and the God of all comfort, who comforted us in all our tribulation. That we may be able to comfort them, which are in trouble by the comfort we’re at. We ourselves are comforted of God, and we can also see Matt. 11 verse 28 to 30. God is gracious, psalms 145, verse 8. The Lord is gracious and full of compassion, slow to anger and of great mercy. Psalm 103, verse 8. The Lord is merciful and gracious through to anger and plenteous in mercy. God is glorious. Sam 24/7 to 10. Lift up your heads or he gates and be he lift up he everlasting doors and the King of Glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The Lord, Strong and mighty. The Lord Mighty in battle. Lift up your hair so he gates even lift them up. He everlasting doors and the King of Glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts? He is the King of Glory. And you can also see Psalms 29, verse 2. God is great. Jeremiah 10, verse six for as much as there is none like unto thee, O Lord, thou art great, and I name is great in might also first chronicles 16 and verse 25 for great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised. He also is to be feared above all gods. God is eternal due to run me 3239 and 40. So now that I even I am he and there is no God with me, I kill and I make a live. I won’t. And I heal needy. Is there any that can deliver out of my hand for I lift up my head to heaven and said I live forever. Authorities Psalms 102 and verse 12. God is pure. God is. That is a complete sentence. God is. And the only noun that makes that a complete sentence is God. God is all that, and I’ll hold that more. But he is not what this heretic said. But the truth is, as I said before, this heretic is not wrong because his military God is LGBTQ IA because the God he’s referring to is an idol, not the God of the Bible, as again in American culture back in the day, a time ago. When we say God, we could assume that we’re talking about the God of the Bible. But former President Obama and the way the culture is going today, we can see today that when we say God, we need to clarify because the current generation do not hear the God of the Bible. When we say God. This small G God say that you can come as you are, stay as you are and leave as you are. My God, the God of the Bible declares in second current in five verse 17. Therefore, if any man being Christ, he is a new creature. All things are passed away. Behold all things are become new. Luke 13 and verse five. I tell you. Nay. But except he repent, he shall all likewise perish. The God of the Bible says that when you come to him that he will make your new creature, that you must repent. You cannot stay as you are. It cannot be as you are and come. To the God of the Bible. That’s why they have to make up a God in their own mind and idol, which is what this heretic clergy is talking about.

[Jay]

I think that there are two levels to this. There are the deceived that are deceiving others and this man is a deceiver. So when he says God, I believe that he not only is talking about his little G God, but he is also defaming. The one true God. I believe this man knows who the God of the Bible is, and he wants to smear him, bring him down beneath his level, and ultimately blasphemy him, which he did Romans chapter one to lengthy passage about 16 verses, but I think it crystallizes what I’ve just said. And what we see happening in that clip, verse 16 says for I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ. For it is the power of God unto salvation, to everyone that believeth to the Jew 1st, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith as it is written. The just shall live by faith, for the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who hold the truth in unrighteousness, because that which may be known of God is manifest in them, for God hath showed it unto them. For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because that when they knew God, they glorified him not as God. Neither were thankful but became. Vain and their imaginations, their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man, and to birds and four footed beasts and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own heart. Parts to dishonor their own bodies between themselves. Who changed the truth of God into a lie and worshipped and served the creature more than the creator who is blessed forever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against. Nature, and likewise also the men leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust, one toward another, men with men working that which is unseemly and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error, which was. Need and even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind to do those things which are not convenient, being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness, full of envy, murder, debate. Deceit, malignity whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful proud boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents without understanding covenant Breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful. For who, knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death. Not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. This is the word of God to this man who has taken all of what MCG said. God is, which is scripture. Truth and has completely inverted it, perverted it for his own. Gain and to the detriment of anyone listening to him. The LGBTQ IA community are people who are exclusively defined or identified by one of two things, their sexual preferences or their self perception or actualization. The basis of the entire worldview is a perversion of the good gift of sex. That comes from. God and to make the terrible claim that God is of supposedly a member of the LGBTQIA community is nothing short of blasphemous, and Christians should speak out against that with one unified and clear voice. There is no room for understanding or for. Amelioration of this particular problem, the foot, has to come down, because what he said was absolutely blasphemous. God is not a member of the LGBTQIA Plus community. God never was. And even when he came into the world in human form, he was born male. He was not born with a proclivity to his perverted sexual preferences, as this man insinuates. But these people equate sex with sexual preference. With their identity, all of it is wrapped up in a perversion of sex. And so for him to say that God is all of these things, all of which are contradictory. It’s not possible to be gay and straight. It’s not possible to be transgender and cisgender at the same time. He’s basically saying because all of these things mutually cancel each other out, that God is nothing and God is so much of nothing that you can be God. There is no God except you. Which is the same sin that the devil committed in heaven when he declared within himself that he will be like the most high. He will have the glory of the most high in those infamous I will declarations that he. Thought in his heart and the Lord cast him down for his sin. It’s the exact same thing that this deceiver, this both deceived and self deceived. Deceiver is telling people that they should do as well, and he should be absolutely blasted and put out and called out for such an egregious. Statement that he made. But then that begs the question, MCG, does God have a sexuality, as this man claims? This man claims that God is of the different sexualities. Is that true?

[MCG]

Well, I guess the question is, does God have a sexuality? Is he male or female? I guess he can boil it down to. I kind of look at them as different questions, even though technically they could also be the same.

[Jay]

Yeah, I think there are different questions. I don’t think they can be. I think sexuality is different from sex.

[MCG]

Well, plainly God is male and you know we can think about it in, as I said, two ways, you know, does God have sexual desires? If you want to put it away. Along the line like you know, we have in human relationships or intimate relationships, some claim that God had an intimate relationship with maybe to conceive. Jesus. There’s zero biblical evidence that I can find to prove that I don’t believe that’s true. I know that there are false beliefs like the Mormonism and stuff like that existed, that believe God, the Father has wives. There’s no evidence of Scripture to support that. Neither I have not seen anything in Scripture to support that, so I don’t believe God being a spirit have intimate relationship or like a husband and wife would have. Or like when the Bible said Adam knew Eve, I don’t see any evidence in Scripture to. Proclaim that. So God being a spirit, I’ll say no, he does not have a sexuality because he’s not physical in that sense. But if the question begs clearly, well, yes, he’s male. I think about Matthew 119 and 20. Then Joseph, her husband, being a just man not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold the Angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream. Saying Joseph. Our son of David. Fear not to take unto the Mary die wife for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. So the virgin birth is obviously something that was a miracle performed by God, that doesn’t indicate to me that God will have an intimate relationship like a man and a woman would have with Mary. And of course, we can dive into that miracle. That would take probably entire episode, you know, ourselves to go into those things, but there’s no evidence in my mind that I can see that that’s true. But again, as I said before, if God, male and female, clearly God is male, he’s male, both in nouns, pronouns, and titles that are used in scripture that all indicate some level of maleness, or indicate maleness. So we know God is a spirit, so he does not have a physical sexuality. As I said before, God the father, that is, we will discuss. Jesus, later down in the episode, but God the father is the spirit. Does not have a physical sexuality, so I think we can move that out, John. 424 God is spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and truth. Numbers 23 verse 19. God is not the man that he should lie neither the son of man that he should repent that he said and shall he not do or had he spoken and shall he not make it good for. Physically said no. Spiritually, there’s a distinction. Yes, he’s male, and there are tons of verses out there that I will get into. I’ll get into some of them based on my research, there are over 170 references showing God as father and of. For us, regardless of what the society is telling us today, our father is a male. As I 64 verse 8, but now all Lord toward our father and we are the clay and toward our partner, and we are the work of thy hand. God is king. First Timothy one verse 17. Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible. The only wise God be honour and glory forever and ever. Amen. And male pronouns. You can see in Revelation 19 and verse 16. And he had on his vesture and on his tie a name written king of Kings and Lord of Lords, and clearly. Male pronouns and male titles. Now I want to dive in a little bit here, because some would say hey, well, that same Bible you’re quoting also used female references for God, and most of them will point to either a six or six verse 13 as one whom his mother comforted. So will I comfort you? And he shall be comforted in Jerusalem. Also, Isaiah 49 and verse 15. Can a woman forget her suckling child? That she should not have compassion on the son of her womb. Yeah, they may forget. Yet will I not forget thee? Number the 11 verse 12. Have I conceived all these people? Have I begotten them that thou shouldst say unto me, carried them in thy bosom as a nursing father buried a suckling child. Unto the land which those whereas unto their fathers. And of course, Matthew 23 and verse 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, though that Killester prophet and stones them which are sent unto thee. How often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathered her chickens unto her wings, and he would not? Clearly all these verses? Are showing a comparison. I can compare rock on an orange that doesn’t make an orange or rock or rock an orange. It’s a comparison comparison. You’re looking at the similarities and differences when you compare two things together. You’re not saying that they are one and the same. You’re looking at the similarities that they may have and the differences they may have. I don’t know why in today’s society that when we compare stuff we’re saying ohh well, he’s saying that. Or she is saying that object A is object B. Now they’re making a comparison. And of course you can make lousy comparison. Or you can make. On ethical comparison, if you want to put that away, but at the end of the day, it’s just what it is, it’s a comparison. It’s basically saying, hey God will protect you. Just like can we protect our chicks? God will love you and care for you just like a mother would love and care for her children is no, we’re saying here that God is. Women. So none of these verses changes anything about the fact that God is male. And I think that when we have in the society try to use a scripture and try to use comparisons, because the Bible may use comparison here. Ignore the well over 170 verses plus that refer to God as your father numerous. Verses in all reference to God when pronouncing is used is a male pronoun and in all titles that are used in scripture for God or all male like king and stuff like that. So he’s definitely male in terms of sexuality. He doesn’t have one because he’s a spirit.

[Jay]

One thing I would like to say that I see in this is that being male is so much more than just the chromosomal XY because God is a spirit and yet so he doesn’t have any of those physical sexual characteristics as you said, and doesn’t have a physical sexuality. And yet. He is male, so there’s like a whole realm there that I can’t even pretend to be able to touch, but. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that it is. The seed of life is in the man’s. One of the things that we say in our society today is that ohh women are great because women give life and no, no, no. Women don’t give life. All we can do is receive it and nurture it. We don’t carry the seed and so I say all that to say that there’s a lot more to being male than just the. Sexuality part. And that’s one of the things that I think that the LGBTQIA community does and gets wrong. This hyper focus on. The issue of sexuality, what they prefer in the bedroom, as it were, and the idolatry that’s there is a perversion in and of itself. So it’s like a multiple layered perversion, but that’s God the father now Jesus on the other hand. 100% Man 100% God walked on the earth for 33 years. That question might be a little easier to wrestle with. What do you think about Jesus? Did Jesus God in human form have a sexuality?

[MCG]

Yeah. Before I dive into that, I want to comment a little bit on the chromosome thing, because spiritually, yes, God is a spirit, but of course. In presentation and with how God referred to himself, he refer to himself as male. So spiritually, of course we don’t have such thing as chromosome, but physically we can’t move away from the chromosomes because if we say it’s more than chromosomes then we might be saying the LGBTQIA plus, especially the transgenders have a point. No, your chromosomes. Directly will tell you whether your XY or XI know there are many people in the LGBTQIA community saying Ohh, it’s not just simply as that they come down to your mind and all these other things. No, we can tell by looking at your DNA 100 years after you die, whether you were. An X or XY and that tells us physically whether you’re male or female. And quite answer you tell us whether your he or she these things are connected. There’s no division here. So we want to be careful on that. The question is, of course, what about God in the flesh? Jesus Christ. Does he have a sexuality? Well, if I break it down the same way I break it down initially, of course. Yes, we know that he is male as well because. All their nouns, pronouns, and titles used in scripture. For Jesus, they are all male, right? And of course I’m not going to get into. All of it here, because we can make this episode very long. But Jesus is God. So everything I said about God initially applied to him, but of course we know he is sometimes referred to as a second member of the Trinity. God the son. And as he said, he took on human flesh. Isaiah 9, verse six for unto us a child is born unto us. Fun is. Given and, the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called wonderful. Counsellor, the mighty God, the everlasting father, the Prince of Peace, Isaiah 7 and verse 14. Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign. Behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear as son, and shall call. His name’s Emmanuel. And of course, Matthew won 21 to 25, and she shall bring forth a son and shall call his name Jesus, for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that he might be fulfilled, which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet saying behold, a virgin shall be with child and shall bring. 4th a son and shall call his name Immanuel, which, being interpreted is God with us. Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the Angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife, and knew her not until she brought forth her first born son. Son and he called his name Jesus. So yes, Jesus is male, both physically. So technically, if you had gotten a sample of Christ’s blood or Christ’s DNA while he was walking on Earth, he would be an XY male. There’s no doubt about that. The Bible make that clear in nouns, pronouns and titles. Now of course I am probably just touching the surface of these things because some claim that he was unach. Again, I could be wrong on this, but I don’t see anywhere in Scripture. But the scripture clearly said that Christ was eunuch. But even if he were a eunuch, that does not negate the fact that he is male. Matthew 19 and verse 12 says for there are some eunuchs which were so born from their mother’s womb and their some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men, and they be eunuchs which have made themselves eunuchs for the Kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive. Of it. So Jesus may have chosen to be a eunuch. If you want to put it away. But that doesn’t mean that he was not a man in every way. Another argument some put forth is this. Others argue that he was tempted in all forms. Like we are. So you take about Hebrews 4 verse 15 for we have not a high priest which cannot be touched with the feelings of our infirmities, but was in all points tempted, like as we are yet without. That’s a good verse. That’s a good point. I would say here though, that when he said he was tempted, you know, points just like we are, it does not explicitly mean that he endured sexual temptation. Remember, the temptation itself is not the sin. So it doesn’t not necessarily mean that he and George, such as temptation, just like. All human have at some point endured sexual temptation. That doesn’t mean that, but it also could mean that. So I’m not totally dismissing it. I’m just. Saying that it could mean something different. It doesn’t mean that he was tempted with stealing and he was tempted with lying, and he was tempted with all what it could mean. Is that when the Bible talks about in first John two and verse 16 for all that is in the world, the loss of the flesh, the loss of the eyes, and the pride of life is not of the father. Out of the world, and we know Jesus was tempted in all these three areas of the world when he was tempted by the devil in Matthew chapter four, he was tempted by the loss of the flesh. We were tempted by the loss of the eye, and he was tempted by the pride. Of life. So the loss of the flesh does not always it could mean sexual sin. But it doesn’t always mean sexual sin.

[Jay]

Just a quick interjections. When the writer of Hebrews said that he was tempted at all points like us, and yet without sin, it’s talking about the fact that he was tempted by the loss of the flesh, loss of the ice, pride of life, not just individual.

[MCG]

Right, that’s what I’m getting at. Of course, it could mean that he was tempted in all different points, but right. I personally think that he might be more clearer to say that he was tempted in the three areas of temptation or the two areas of the world. And if you go to Matthew chapter. Poor. You see? The devil tempted him with the loss of the flesh. He tempted him with the Pride of Life and the loss of the eye. So all three are always dear and always clear, and most would agree that when we attempted, when we break away and attempted for sin is always in one of these three, maybe sometimes it’s a combination of. One and one, but it’s always at least one of these three, the last of the flesh, the loss of the eyes, or the pride of life. Again, as I said, the temptation itself is not the sin. And you can find that in first Corinthians 10 of. Was 13. They had no temptation taken you, but such as is common to man. But God is faithful who will not suffer you to be tempted above that he able but will with the temptation also make it with the escape that he may be able to bear it so with all that said, Yes, Jesus is male in the flesh. Yes, he’s male by title, by nouns and pronouns in the Bible. And of course, because he had human flesh, we can also say what were his sexuality is most likely that he may have chosen because we know he never got married. He never got into any physical relationship that he may have chosen. So to be, you know, if you want to put it that way, but that does not negate the fact that he was. Male I also not trying to be graphic here, but that doesn’t mean that he didn’t have the male parts as well.

[Jay]

OK, if Jesus then had those things and he walked the earth God and you inform 100% man 100% God, then is it right to say then that his preferred pronoun, as it were, was he, we could say definitively that his pronoun is. He. But what about God being a spirit?

[MCG]

Well, first, let me say this because I know that the left, especially the LGBTQIA, they’re trying desperately to change the language. And I believe a lot of times that we as Christians get duped into using their language. I don’t like the additive preferred pronoun. We don’t get the ability to choose our pronouns, just like we don’t get the. Ability to choose our adjectives or adverbs or whatever. That’s not a thing. So saying what’s his preferred pronoun? I think we’re using the deranged language of their culture. And saying hey, what is the proper pronoun? There is no such thing as preferred pronoun as that established in nouns, pronouns, and titles. Oh, Jesus and God the father are always referred to as male, as king, as Lord, all male pronouns, titles. And noun. So therefore the pronoun for a male is he or him is not the preferred thing is. Their rule of the English language, and if you speak Spanish or any other language, I’m sure there’s a, but actually especially those language like Spanish and. French and maybe Portuguese and Italian. They have all male form and and female form, so that’s kind of out of the picture here. But we don’t get to choose a pronoun and all that crazy stuff. So yes, Jesus in the flesh is male. God is a spirit. The Bible referred to me as male. There’s no trusting as preferred pronouns. And you’re listening to the removing various podcasts. You’re talking about a blasphemous clergy who claim that God is a member of the LGBTQIA community. We’ll be right back.

[Jay]

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[MCG]

Alright, Jay. So we talk about the sexuality of God and that of Jesus Christ and stuff like that. The question begs, though, if God is love, why would the LGBTQIA be condemned?

[Jay]

This is similar to the. Question of if there is a God, why is there so much evil in the world? And if God is this God is that we live in a world that has been marred and destroyed by sin? And God has promised to defeat and destroy sin once and for all he did on the cross already, and he has promised that he will return and make all things new. What that requires is a just. Response to sin. And right now, in the age of grace that we’re in and the church age that we’re in, the period between his ascension and the period that he returns right now, we’re in a period of grace where justice means if you confess your sins and turn from them the scriptures. Say he is faithful and just to forgive you of your sin, but for those who want to hold on to their sin. The only appropriate response? The only response there is, is condemnation. You cannot have God and your sin at the same time. One of the things that I think perhaps the Christian world has gotten wrong in recent decades is this over. I don’t even think you can overemphasize the love of God, because that is literally who he is. The Bible says that God is love, but I think the church has under represented marginalized and perhaps minimized the justice of God. God is just. And so wherever there is sin, he absolutely must deal with it. He would not be God if he didn’t. John chapter one, verses 14 to 17 say that Jesus God is full of grace and truth. In fact, I’m going to pull it up here just so that I could. Read it and the word was made flesh and dwelt among us. And we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the father, full of grace and truth. I think the church overemphasizes in many ways grace at the expense of the reality of truth. And the truth is that Romans one is straight from the lips of God. And that the homosexual? Transgender just whatever is under the LGBTQIA plus umbrella, including their allies, is an affront to the holiness of God, and he absolutely would not be God if he doesn’t judge it. If he doesn’t condemn it. If the Lord doesn’t punish. Or condemn this sin that he owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology. And we know that God is no respecter of persons. That will not be the case with him. And so if we tell people that this LGBTQIA plus is a chain around your neck dragging you to hell, it is not an identity. It is not a sexual preference with no consequence. It is not an alternative lifestyle. It is not normal if we tell people these things that there’s judgment. Attached to it that is not hateful and that is not contradictory to the fact that God is love. If God says that something is a sin, we would do wise to take heed and to turn from it. God is not someone who takes pleasure in the death of the wicked. God is not someone who is sadist. Or masochist or anything. None of these terms apply to God. He is. Perfect and completely balanced and grace and truth at all times. And so if we are holding on to our sin. As I mentioned before, the only natural response is that condemnation he has to judge that sin. It would be like a judge who has a convicted criminal standing before them, caught on camera, caught on tape and everything. There’s no denying all evidence links to the person and all these sorts of things, and it’s been proven in court that this person is guilty and the judge just shrugged his shoulders. I’m going to feel gracious today and let you go. We would never in a million years claim that that judge is a good judge. Why is it that we would apply that standard to God, who is the perfect? Judge who is perfect truth, perfect love, perfect justice. So it’s just I think those kinds of arguments and those kinds of questions are attempts at excusing our sin. It’s an attempt at justifying our sin. Well, if God is a certain way, I guess. I can do this or I guess I can do that, and if God is a certain way, well, why can’t I do this? Because look at the world that we’re living in, when in reality God is calling us to be to come out of those things to come. Out of that lifestyle to come out of that sin because he is holy and he absolutely can. And will and must judge sin wherever it’s to be found. And you can’t hide. You can’t hide under your philosophy. You can’t hide under your ideology or behind your ideology. All of those things will evaporate before the incredible consuming fire that is our God. And for anyone to think otherwise, they are sadly diluted and are on their way to hell. Dangling over hell by a spider webs thread, which is a very terrible and fearful thing to think about.

[MCG]

Yeah, I think that question, if God is love, why would the LGBTQI be condemned? Is a loaded question.

[Jay]

Loaded in what way?

[MCG]

I fully agree with what you just said, but also when we do episodes like these where they was, you know, LGBTQI, we are coming for your children, you know. Preferred pronouns Christians and free speech and other you know, the redefinition of women instead of culture doesn’t name the recent ones we have done and other episodes. We have done an LGBTQIA. Sometimes, based upon maybe a comment in YouTube or whatever, you can tell someone from the community may have listened. Maybe allies may have listened, and I don’t think they get too far in their episodes because they might think these are some nut cases Christians that basically condemning us in a sense. But I want to make something clear. The LGBTQIA person is not condemned because they are LGBTQIA. We need to distinguish that the reason why they are condemned is not necessarily because their LGBTQIA, the Veritas, and John 3 for 16 to 19 for God so loved the world, that he gave his only bigger. And son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life, for God said, not his son, into the world, to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved. And he is the kicker. He that believeth on him is not condemned. But he that believeth not is condemned all ready. Because he had not believed in the name of the only begotten son of God, and this is the condemnation that light is come into the world and men love darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. They are condemned just like everyone else if we reject. The grace extended to us for salvation for the reason why I can be condemned and the reason why the LGBTQIA can be condemned is because they have rejected the grace extended to them for salvation. And remember, as I said earlier, when God saved us, Second Corinthians 5/17, he makes us a new creature. He doesn’t save us and leave us the where we are. If they have never repented of their sin and trust Christ as their savior, they are condemned. And that is true for me, and that is true for the LGBT community as well. So I want to make that distinction because their lifestyle is not any more condemned than the heterosexual who’s living with his girlfriend. And fornicating, of course society. For years have looked upon their sin as being unnatural, and of course, the Bible do refer to them as being unnatural. But in the terms of condemnation that heterosexual person is just as guilty of sin and condemnation before God as the LGBT is. And again, the Bible says that when you reject, you don’t believe on the son of God. You are condemned already. It’s not that you’re going to be condemned. You’re condemned. All ready. So that’s a distinction I want to make again. I fully agree. What you said. I just want to interject that distinction there. But do you think that God. 8 The LGBTQIA community.

[Jay]

No, of course not. The Bible is very clear that God is love, and God desires that all men would be saved. Now, of course, in our world today, the word hate is defined differently as what it ought to be defined as in today’s world, hate is synonymous with anything. That would be contrary to the LGBTQIA plus agenda, and so if you tell the center and the LGBTQIA plus community that they’re in danger of her. Higher and that they must turn from their sin. That would be considered hate speech if you tell them that homosexuality is a sin that’s hate speech. If you tell them that there are only two genders that’s hate speech. And so the definition of hate has also been diluted in this world. Earlier. MCG, you mentioned how the heretic. Made reference to a God that is not the one true God, and yet in the Western civilizations we think of the one true God. When we hear the word God. I think it’s the same thing here. The definition is completely wrong when it comes to hate. I believe that the church absolutely needs to be clear on this issue. There are many churches that have a very well. I shouldn’t say that because that’s not true. I was going to say they have a very hateful spirit toward. Homosexualities. Well, what I mean to say is that there are some churches. That have a combative and confrontational and hateful way of approaching homosexuals. I’m thinking of Westboro Baptist, for example. Or Stephen Anderson is another one who has said some things that go beyond the scope and the realm of Scripture when speaking about sinners. That are choosing to send in this particular way. Overall, I think that many churches and mainstream denominations are a little too welcoming, a little too open, a little too embracing of the LGBTQ. We spoke in other episodes of churches flying LGBT. The flags and various flags on their buildings, that is an indulging of sin that ought not to be. We should not do that in the name of so-called love, or to try and demonstrate how loving we are as opposed to hateful. But again, we go back to this idea of being like Christ being like God, who is full of both grace and truth there. Has to be. A 100% grace and 100% truth when address. Seeing people within this particular community because they have been successful in not just changing the language, but weaponizing it, and so something that we would consider to be actually quite loving, IE warning the Sinner about their sin and judgment to come and urging them to turn to Christ and to turn. From their sin. That would be considered hateful, even though we know that biblically, that’s actually love. That’s true love. So no, I don’t think that God hates the LGBTQIA community in the sense that we are thinking. But in their eyes, they probably think that he does because he does stand against their lifestyle and their sexual and sinful choices.

[MCG]

Yeah, I fully agree. Just go back to the old cliche. You know, God hates the sin, but he doesn’t hate the Sinner. So does God hate the community? No. God hit the sin of the community, just like you hate the sin. Of the heterosexual and the sin of the church and the sin God hates sin, but he loves the Sinner and we know he loves the Sinner because Romans 5/8 tell us that while we are yet now saying or we’re while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us, you know, but he is the kicker. If after you are save out of that community. God, who placed you, as I said before, in a new community I referenced second current year five, verse 17 and which is a very important here. Therefore even might be in Christ in a new creature, all things are passed away. Behold, all things have become new. That’s very important there as well that their LGBT community understand all the heterosexual understand. That when you get saved that you become a new creature. So your old things are passed away. God is not gonna save you and leave you. That’s the important thing here. Because this heretic was basically, as I said, they’re looking for God. We’ll say come up there. Stay there. I’ll leave as you are. But my God say, hey, when you come, I’m going to work on your heart and I’m going to save you. I’m gonna change and I’m going to put you in a new. Community, which is very important, you know, because.

[Jay]

And a new identity as.

[MCG]

Well, actually, identity know being Christ. So God does not hate the LGBT person, because when you talk about LGBT come, you talk about the person or individual. God hates the sin of the individual, just like God hates. Jason, but I can tell you this much that he definitely loves you.

[Jay]

Let me tack on to that and ask a question that is somewhat related, but not quite because we’re talking about how the LGBTQIA community views hate, not just them, but the world in general. Now the things that they consider to be hate speech right now is just incredible or what they consider to be hate is just incredible. But we’re talking about. About sexuality and as I mentioned before in the podcast, these are people that are exclusively defined by their sexual preferences or what they think they are in terms of expressing a particular sexual identity. That’s their entire identity is their sexuality? Is that what God intended? And he gave us the great gift of sex and the gift of sexuality. What was his original intention for human sexuality?

[MCG]

Wow, that’s a a big question, but I’m going to summarize it in this week because of course we can spend the entire episode on this topic, but I’m going to say for three things, three C’s for comfort between a man and a woman for companionship. When the comfort end when you’re in your 80s, you’re going to be glad for the companionship. And also for children. And I’m not saying any of them are more important than the other because of course there’s some hectic sexual marriages, which is the only type of marriage anyway. That can’t have children, but they can still have the comfort and they can still have their companionship. So I think those are the three main intentions for human sexuality to be expressed beautifully in a marital relationship between a man and a woman. But the question begs does God intention include homosexuality? Transgender with them or anything in the LGBTQIA community, no, you might ask why. Because God intention for human sexuality, of course, I said. Comfort, companionship, and children. Can it be beautifully expressed in a man and a man’s relationship? More importantly than even that, it’s because he’s God. And as I said earlier, he’s creator, and if he’s creator, that means God gets to define. Human sexuality. And that’s one of the major reason why Bible believing Christians do not accept the LGBTQ IE lifestyle. Because God defines human sexuality because God creates us, God has the power and the authority to define it, and God define it. And say it should be between a man and a woman, for God defines it. And also creation determines it genesis one, verse 7. So God created man in his own image and the image of God created he him male and female created. He damn Christian determines if God defines it because he is the creator, he has the authority creation determines it. Genesis 2, verse 24. Therefore, shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one. Ash notice he didn’t say. Therefore, shall a man leave his father and his mother and cleave unto his husband? He’s a cleave unto his wife. Creation determines it. God defines it. Note also that Jesus affirms it. Matthew 19, verse 46, and he answered the son unto them. Have he not read what is Christ referring to here back in Genesis, where Creation determines it, and God defines it? Jesus. Affirmed it. Have you not read that he, which made them at the beginning, made them male and female and said for this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave unto his wife, and they twain shall be 1 flesh, wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together? Let no man put a Thunder. You can also see Mark Chapter 10 for that. So God defines it. Creation determines it, Jesus affirms it, and also Paul agrees. Right. First Timothy 3, verse 22. A Bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober of good behaviour given to hospitality app to teach Ephesians 531 to 33. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife. And day two shall be 1 flesh. This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the. Church nevertheless, let everyone of you, in particular soul, love his wife even as himself and the wife say that she reverenced her husband Romans one verse 24 to 31. Very important here. Paul agrees with it. Very important here, because Paul is going to show us plainly the homosexuals. He is not a part of God intention for human sexuality, so his homosexuality, LGBTQIA is all the perversion of what God defines. What creation determines what Jesus affirms, and what Paul agrees with. Paul disagrees with the homosexual lifestyle, is a way for God. Gave them up to Uncleanness, to the loss of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves. Who trained the truth of God into a lie and worship and serve the creature more than the creator, who is blessed forevermore. Amen. I’m gonna stop there for a little bit, because here I’m going to say this, that this verse. In America has already happened. I believe God has already given up the US. Yeah, the West, to Uncleanness, to the loss of their own hearts. This has already happened. And I declare unto you that it didn’t happen even 10 or 20 years ago. This probably happened in the sexual revolution in the 50s and the 60s. When no fault divorce and all these things, and with the rise of contraceptive, where women now believe that they can be loose with their bodies and stuff like that, and men being loose as. Well, that’s uncleanness and the Bible said here. Hey, God also gave them up to uncleanness, to the loss of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies. The Bible tells us that when you find a kid that you sin against your own body. So this is not necessarily just homosexuality, is heterosexuals fornicating. An adultery here, uncleanness. I believe God has where to give them up to uncleanness and as I said, the filth of their sexual revolution that happened in the. As decades ago, I continue for this cord, God gave them up unto vile affections that even their woman. They change the national views into that which is against scripture, and likewise also the men leaving the natural use of the woman earn in their lost one to another man with man working that which is unseemly and receiving themselves. The recommends of the error, which was meat I declare again, I’m gonna stop you again that this given up has already happened in America as well. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affection. This is the homosexuality of the 80s and the 90s that they were asking for. Tolerance and when they got tolerance, they asked for acceptance. When they get acceptance, no, they’re acting for being superior. This already happened in the US this has already happened in the US. Most people in the US, I’m sure if you take a poll and this poll might be even among so-called Christians, would agree with at least the L and the G. And the be lifestyle, I don’t see anything wrong with it. I believe God has already given them over to vile affection. So what we’re seeing here is the progression of sin the heterosexual. Moles decide that they can be loose with their bodies and be unclean. God give them over to that. So no, because they were given over to that no. When that is not satisfying anymore, they were given over to vile affection that has already happened. So the Bible continues, and even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to our Rep debate mine. To do those things which are not convenient, being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, consciousness, maliciousness, full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, magnify whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful proud boasters, inventors of evil things disobedient. Without understanding covenant Breakers, without natural affection, impeccable and merciful. I believe that we are living in this third given up which God have given them up to our Rep debate, mind, we can spend an entire episode on this, but why else would it be that we can’t define what is a man and what is a woman that is a Rep to be? Nine. Why is it that we are sexualizing our children and teaching them that they can change from a girl to a boy or from a boy to a girl mutilating healthy body parts and telling them that they can change? Why is it that we can’t reason with these people because they have a reptile beat mind we are living in this last giving up in Romans 1. This is currently what we are seeing. This is a transgenderism. This is the lack of reasoning in the US today. We don’t even agree on the problem. A time ago you can say we agree on the problem. We just have a difference on the solution today we don’t even agree on the. Blem Rep to beat mind, we are living in this mess in the society today. Progression of sin as we see it, God gave them up to uncleanness. Give them up unto vile affection. No, you’ve give them over to a reptile. Bit mind the last wrong on the ladder. And I also have to say after that Even so come Lord Jesus, because where are they going to go? From here I can’t even imagine so as is. Said God defines it creation determines it. Jesus affirm it and Paul agrees with it. First Timothy, one verse 8 to 11. But we know that the law is good. If a man used it lawfully. Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for the sinners, for unholy. And profane for murderers of fighters and murderers of mothers for manslayers from war mongers for them that defile themselves with mankind as homosexuality for men, stealers for liars, for the perjured. Listen, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine according to the Glorious Gospel of the Blessed God, which was committed to my trust, of course, first Corinthians 69 and 10 know he not, that the and risers shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived. Neither fornicators that they have asexual nor adulterers. Nor adulterers. That’s the heterosexual, nor the family. That’s the homosexual. That’s the LGBTQI community. Nor abusers themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor Junkers, nor Revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God. The verse 11 says, which is we, we all. Can find some hope for us, Levin said. And such were some of you. Pray the Lord that I can declare that such were me. Such were you my friend. Such were some of you, all of us. At some point in our life were unsafe by this and such were some of you. We were all filthy sinners, but the Bible said. But you’re washed, but you’re sanctified. But he had justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and by the spirit of our God. If you are a member of the LGBT community, and you happen to be listening this far into this episode, if you haven’t clicked away long before you got down to over an hour of recording, you 2 can be washed. You 2 can be justified. In the name of Jesus and by the spirit of God. We all can be washed sanctified. By repentant faith in Jesus Christ, recognizing that we are wretched sinners in need of a savior, and turning to Christ, the Bible says in Romans 10, verse 910 and 13 that if thou shall confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and shall believe in thine heart that God had raised him from the dead, thou shall be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation, for whosoever shall call upon the name of The Lord shall Be safe. May I encourage you, dear listener, if you have never turned to Christ, repentant fate, you too can be in the statement as such. Were you? But you are washed, but you are sanctified, but you are justified. You can be if you turn to Christ. Your repentant fate. What do you trust him today?

[Jay]

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[MCG]

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