Episode 119

**This episode will discuss elements of the LGTBQ agenda in varying degrees of detail. Parental discretion is advised.**

When John and Charles Wesley set out to follow Christ, it is safe to assume they didn’t realize God would take their devotion and multiply the fruit to the degree He did. We are just as sure that if they were alive today, they would be absolutely horrified to see the degree to which the movement has degenerated into apostasy. Isaac Simmons is ordained and promoted by the United Methodist Church (UMC) but he also practices sodomy and transvestitism. He blasphemes God and His Word on both personal and UMC social media platforms. How can this be? Join us on this episode of the Removing Barriers podcast as we explore this question, the conditions that facilitate it, and the church’s proper response to it.

O the mercy of God. Yes, behold the mercy of God that he didn’t strike him dead when those words left his mouth.

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This is episode 119 of the Removing Barriers podcast and in this episode we will be discussing a drag Queen atheist pastor by the name of Isaac Simmons. However, he goes by the stage or drag name of Miss Pentecost, and he was ordained as a minister in the United Methodist Church. Now, before we go any further, I must warn you, some of the statements made by Isaac Simmons are extremely blasphemous. So parental guidance for this episode is advice.

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So let’s begin with a background of the man named Isaac Simmons. Who is he, what does he do? And why are we talking about him today? Right, so besides the descriptions I give in the intro, Isaac Simmons or Miss Pentecost, as he goes by, is a man who believes that queer is holy, uses a queer Bible commentary and compares the crucifixion to queerness. He does have a degree from someplace in theology. He’s an audience minister in the United Methodist Church and he often preach, quote unquote, while Jeff as a woman, or in Jag as he called it. So that’s Isaac Simmons in a nutshell, he goes by dead and pronoun, which is not necessarily important, but that’s going to come back because he said something important about pronouns in one of the clips that we’re going to be playing. But in short, he’s, I guess, square jag queen pastor or traveling pastor of the United Methodist Church. He has a significant social media presence, doesn’t he? Yes, he does. He has a YouTube channel where he often preach and I guess explain the Bible in the light of queerness. What makes this so dangerous, of course, is that in today’s world, most people are getting their theology or many people, I should say, are getting their theology or bits of it from social media, whether it’s a quick TikTok video or YouTube or Facebook or is Facebook even relevant anymore? I don’t know. Instagram, all of these different social media platforms and so pastors today, I imagine, have an even tougher job because they barely get their congregates for an hour a week, maybe 2 hours, 3 hours if they’re lucky. But day in and day out throughout the rest of the week, christians are being bombarded. And people who profess or people who want to know more are being bombarded by these heretics, let’s call them what they are heretics on social media that present the lie as though it were true, that present sin as though it were holy. And this man sounds like he’s one of them. Yeah, definitely.

Important thing here as well is that it’s not just Christians, it’s unsaved people who will hear this man and feel comfortable the way they are, obviously he’s not preaching sin and repentance from be a sin and all that stuff. So Kamazia stayed here beaziya you’ll be happy kind of a message. So it’s dangerous. But also, even going back to Christians, there are some Christians that get the entire spiritual content from social media. So they don’t go to church. Maybe I shouldn’t say social media, but online. Online, yeah. So they do online church or they watch a church service on YouTube and whatever the case may be. And of course we are on YouTube, we are on the podcast platforms. But I would never encourage anyone to listen to an episode of the Removal Barriers podcast for this Sunday morning message. Right. This is no substitute for gathering with the body on Sunday in order to hear the preaching of the word of God. Right? So this guy, Isaac Simmons, he has a following. And he has a following because the LGBTQIA plus community now has someone in their camp who are telling them what they want to hear and welcoming them as they are. Again, if they want to go to church, great. I pray and and hope that they go to a church that they will hear the gospel and truly be changed. Because what Isaac Simmons is preaching, as I said earlier, is just outright blasphemous.

But before we get further into Isaac Simmons, the Methodist Church as a denomination, I think was once solid. So how did the Methodist denomination get from where it was or from where it started to where it is today? From what I understand, the history of the Methodist Church is traced all the way back to John and Charles Wesley. And they had come out of the Anglican Church, and their preaching, their way of doing things was an attempt to reform the Anglican Church. Ultimately, it became its own denomination. But they were a very pious and very God fearing group of people. The Wesleys, their mother, the people in that tradition for the first, I’d say 100 years or so, were very God fearing people. In preparing for this, I read about not just them, but their mother, who she was as a woman, as a Christian woman, raising 19 children. She herself was the last of 25 children, and she homeschooled all of her children. And she made sure that they grew up in the faith from the time they were five or from the time they were able to speak. She taught them how to pray. She taught all of them how to read by having them read the Book of Genesis from the beginning and teaching them their letters and teaching them phonetics and reading and all that sort of thing from the Book of Genesis. They were required to read Scripture and memorize Scripture before they came down to breakfast every morning. She would have strict and not strict as in mean or angry or hurtful, but strict as in a discipline of raising these children up according to the word of God. And when the local church, the layman at the local church where she and the children were attending because her husband was out of town, I believe he was defending a fellow pastor from accusations of heresy or something along those lines when they were not receiving the spiritual teaching that she felt should be coming from the Scriptures. She took it upon herself to teach her children from the Bible on Sunday afternoons. That grew into a Bible study that she probably didn’t intend for it to, but she took it upon herself to make sure that her children were God fearing people. Her sons, of course, John Wesley and Charles Wesley were very well known, established methodism, a discipline, a way of living the Christian life that seeks to honor God and everything. They were more arminian in their doctrine, but definitely a heart for God, a fire for God, a desire for holiness, that sort of thing. To see that that denomination devolve into what it is today, those gentlemen have to be rolling around in their graves, as the saying goes. We know where they are with the Lord. But how far the Methodist Church is from what it was established to be is incredible.

Now, the Methodist Church as it is today, we would say, came about in the 1960s, late 1960s, around 67, 68 around that time as a response to the political and racial turmoil going on in the country at that time. We’re talking civil rights era. We’re talking assassination of Martin Luther King. We’re talking about the riots and everything that happened as a result. And the Methodist Church merged with, I believe it’s called the Evangelical Brethren Church I could be wrong on that as a display of unity even though there was chaos and all of these different things in the streets of the country at that time. Unfortunately, even within ten years of this merging, the denomination began to show seeds of corruption, seeds of apostasy, when almost everything that they did was a response to the cultural happenings in the nation at that time. And so they have ethnic caucuses within the body. They have a Hispanic caucus, and they have a black caucus and all these other different caucuses like a segmenting of the body of Christ. And when it came to the response to homosexuals and the LGBTQ agenda they initially responded and declared that even though homosexuals have inherent worth, sacred worth as a result of being image bearers of God, the practice of homosexuality isn’t compatible with Scripture. But they threw that out the window in 2015, 2016 timeframe. This is around the time that Barack Obama became president. So they threw that out the window and they completely reversed their stance on homosexuality and they caved into the culture. And if you ask me the UMC has been apostate for at least 40 years now. I would argue 50 plus. It’s a far cry from the beginnings under which it was with the leadership of the Wellesleys Foundational to this apostasy. If I could just stop renting and actually answer the question. It’s a departure from the belief and the conviction that the Word of God is the absolute standard by which a believer is to live their lives in the UMC. What they believe is the standard by which the church should operate or believers should live their lives is by what’s happening in the culture. And that’s been clear by the timeline and how they’ve responded to certain things and the changes they’ve made in their denomination. But now interpretation of the Word of God is subject to the whims of men or the happenings of the time. And so it’s no surprise that there would arise a homosexual drag queen pastor, a so called pastor that they would even ordain such a person that they even let someone in the church like that much less ordain them. And when I say let him into the church what I mean by that is receive him as an active participating member without requiring repentance, without requiring attorney from that sin first.

Yeah, I fully agree. I want to go back to John and Charles Wesley because what I want to say is that I do believe, as you alluded to that these men were saved. But it’s interesting here because as I dug into the history of John Wesley especially, is that they came to America to try to win the Native Americans to Christ, quote unquote. But John was not saved at that time. They were very religious, very pious, as you say, because of the Anglican Church or the Church of England. But they were not saved. On their way to America there was a storm at sea and he was moved by Moravians who were singing hymns and praising God during the time of the storm. And he asked them how in the world can you be so peaceful while we having a storm? And for the first time John Wesley heard the Gospel of Grace as he puts it in his diary, the Gospel of Grace from the Moravians. From the Moravians because the Moravians at one point were very solid. However, he came to America. He and Charles actually came to America. Charles left before him because Charles was sick but then he left maybe a few years or whatever later and he met a friend of Charles by the name of Peter Bowler. Peter bowler was a Moravian missionary. Charles had gotten saved because of the testimony of Peter Bowler and then John eventually got saved because of the influence of Peter Bowler. So in the 800 they started the Methodist Church. But that wasn’t even their name, because their intent for, quote, unquote, what we call the Methodist church today was to kind of bring some sort of method or organization to the Church of England or the angry church, because back then, if you weren’t high class, you didn’t have proper clothing, you didn’t speak the Queen’s English as you should. You can’t go to the angry church. So you have all these commoners working in fields and all these places that needed the gospel but no one was given the gospel to them except for the Moravians and the other folks who invited John to preach because the Anglican church had stopped inviting him to come and preach after his conversion. So he went to the fields and preach and he was surprised by the response and everything. And as people get saved under his congregation grow he realized hey, I needed some place to put these people. So he built a church church and the name Methodist was actually a name to ridicule what he was doing. It wasn’t actually a name that I think he chose for himself, it was a name that they were making fun of him by calling him a Methodist. But I do believe these men were saved. I do believe that they have done great stuff from the kingdom of God.

An interesting fact about John Wesley they said that during his lifetime he rode more than 250,000 miles on horseback and that will be equivalent of going on to earth ten times at the equator. 250,000 miles on horseback going and preach the gospel. Wow. He preached over 40,000 sermons and his brother Charles wrote over 6500 hymns. Famous ones include Hack the Herald, Angel Sings and and Can It be and over 4000 tongues to sing Some of the ones that we actually still sing in churches today. The message of the church however even though at one point they preach salvation by grace true faith alone they had actual issues because he didn’t really want to pull them out of the Anglican church. He kept a lot of the teaching of the African churches as well so he kind of kept some kind of closeness to it. And of course from the inception Wesley had a woman preaching in the church and of course we know the Bible tell us that a woman should not be a preacher. Regardless of what modern Christianity teaches us the Bible is clear in that a woman should be preaching or pastor in a church. Well, now that makes sense about his mother and her Bible study because her Bible study became so large that her husband actually wrote back and asked her to stop because it was almost like church and she was leading it, right. But she was pretty submissive because she wrote back and told him, hey, I can stop this, but who’s going to feed these folks? Are you going to come and give them the word that they crave? But he had a woman preaching okay, there’s preach salvation by grace alone through faith alone and that might be a little bit of her. And I’m not trying to hit on Charles Wesley and John Wesley because as I said, these men were men and I’m sure they have imperfect doctrine just like I have imperfect doctrine. So I’m not trying to jump and pick the errors in the doctrine, but I think the errors in the doctrine was the association with the arguments church because the intention was never to come out of the angry church. Was to reach the commoner, which the Anecdote church wasn’t reaching. Because again, if you didn’t have status in society, you couldn’t go to the Angle church back then. And also by violating the Bible.

So how did they get here? We didn’t know ordinary Jag queens. Well, I think it’s because from the very beginning they did not stand firmly on the word of God. And here’s what this Ordain drag queen United Methodist pastor has to say about the Bible

look, the Bible, the Bible is nothing nothing but poetry, pain and performance. The Bible is no more holy than Alan Ginsburg’s howls of life, no more peaceful than Oscar Wild’s requiescot and Patchet and no more stronger than Tammy phase eyelash glue.

The Bible is nothing according to Isaac Simmons a little lump. You can argue that from the beginning, from the inception of the Messiah Church, even though at one point they preach salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, they weren’t standing under scriptures. And now we have another audience minister saying the Bible is nothing but to born again Christian. The Bible is the unadulterated infallible word of God. I like this poem. I don’t know who wrote it, but it encapsulates exactly how I feel about the Word of God because it’s a treasure that we have that sometimes we neglect because we have it on our phones and we have several copies of it. But imagine those that don’t have it. Here’s the poem.

The Bible contains the mind of God, the state of man, the way of salvation, the doom of sinners, and the happiness of believers. Its doctrines are holy, its precepts are binding, its histories are true, and its decisions are immutable. Read it to be wise, believe it to be safe, and practice it to be holy. It contains light to direct you, food to support you, and comfort to share you. It’s a traveler’s map. The Primgroom staff, the palace compass, the soldier’s sword, and the Christian charter. Here paradise is restored, heaven open and the gates of hell disclose. Christ is its grand subject, our good, the design and the glory of God its end. It should fill the memory, rule the heart, and guide the feet. Read it slowly, frequently and prayerfully. It is a mine of wealth, a paradise of glory and a river of pleasure. It is given you in life, will be open at the judgment and will be remembered forever. It involves the highest responsibility, will reward the greatest labor, and will condemn all who trifold with its sacred contents.

I think that’s from the Gideon Bible. That’s correct. So if that’s true, and that’s beautifully written, the reason why any church is in a state like the United Methodist Church today, it is because they have moved away from the word of God. For now, they have an ordained minister proclaiming that the Bible is nothing but queerness, according to him, is holy. He even equated that, like you said earlier, to the crucifixion, to one of the bedrocks of the Christian faith.

I suppose that’s why this is all egregious. But isn’t it unloving in our day and age to call that out and to say because what he would say, of course, is acceptance, tolerance, and the UMC actually says this about itself, that it’s big enough to welcome people of opposing viewpoints. So it’s big enough to embrace both progressive and conservative Christians. So the loving thing to do would be to accept this man and all of the people that follow his way of life in so called the love of Christ. And for those of you that can’t see us where I’m using air quotes here because they call it loving, I would argue that it is not loving. But what do you think it is egregious? Because it is ugly. And I know we shouldn’t be using that word. And I’m not calling Isaac Simmons ugly because I don’t really care how he looks or his features per se. I don’t really care. But what he is doing and what the church is doing, the United Methodist Church is ugly and talking about whether he’s loving or not. Quite honestly, I think that we have come to a point where we have offered so much grace to the LGBTQIA plus community that we’re not offering any love and not love, but truth, and because we are out of balance. The Bible said that when Christ came, he was full of grace and truth. If you give too much truth, of course you’re unloving. But if you give too much grace, you’re enabling. So you want to have a balance, just like Christ was of grace and truth. This world and many churches have extended so much grace to this community. Now it has become that we’re enabling them. We need to go back and swing that pendulum way back so we can start giving them some truth. And the fact is that this is ugly. They take good and call it bad. They take evil and they call it good. That is Isaiah five, verse 20 and 21. Go on. To them that call evil good and good evil that put darkness for light and light for darkness that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter. Warranted them that are wise in their own eyes and prudent in their own sight. Let me read that again, because that is the epitome of Isaac Simmons. Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes and prudent in their own sight. That perfectly describe Isaac Simmons. And that’s exactly what we are seeing today in the LGBT community. Here’s what Isaac Simmons has to say about God.

God himself is no more tangible than the concoction of invisible butterflies floating in new lovers stomachs, yearning to be set free from the bondage of past harm and the lacks of rightful mistrust. God themselves is nothing. But if she were, she would be, yes, cleaning her way down the runways of Paris and Montreal, strutting on that tightrope pole, taught between absurdity and opulence, balancing between too much and never enough.

O, the mercy of God. Yes, behold the mercy of God. That he didn’t strike him dead when those words left his mouth. First, let me say this is a little mini rant, but go ahead. We’re ready. Isn’t it hypercritical of the LGBTQI way plus community to misgender God? Yes. I never even thought of that. What in the world? So now you’re telling me that I must use your proper pronoun, regardless of what the English language teaches us, regardless of how we were born biologically. You want me to use whatever pronoun you want to identify as. You are telling me that there are over 112 different pronouns, and for everybody I meet, I need to ask them what’s their pronoun and adjust them as such. Now we have someone who is promoting queerness saying God is nothing, a Jag queen, whatever he described himself as. Even so, he goes by they damn pronoun, yet he just misgendered God. Isaac, God is a He, and they’re not interchangeable, and they’re only two genders. God is a He. This is extremely blasphemous for him to do that. But anyway, I digress.

God is nothing. So to answer the question so he says God is nothing? Yeah, to answer the question, is it unloving to say that he’s egregious? No, because as I said before, the culture have extended so much grace to this community. Now we need to add some more truth so we can get some more balance, so we can save the next generation. Because this the next generation is the generation that the LGBTQIA plus community is going after. Yeah, I would totally agree. Christians need to stop seeding the ground to the forces of darkness by surrendering the language. We need to return to a biblical definition of the word love. The Bible says that God is love. One John four, seven and eight makes that clear. The Bible also says that God is holy. Verse Peter one, verse 16, be holy, for I am holy. It’s reasonable and it’s indeed right to conclude that love is nothing less than holy. And when we go to One Corinthians 13 four to seven, it defines love. And it is nothing like what this man is claiming. Love is not just this man, but this entire LGBTQ agenda defines love and hate in ways that are completely unbiblical. Love does not rejoice in iniquity. One Corinthians 13 says, love does not rejoice in iniquity. It rejoices in the truth. So to call out these abominations and call its practitioners to repentance is true love. True love doesn’t say, come as you are. God loves you and he doesn’t expect anything from you. He doesn’t care if you flaunt and disregard his law and His Word and his revealed will. Love does not say that to you, because if you say that to someone and they go on believing that you have condemned that person to hell, that person will split hell wide open and be totally surprised. I don’t know what happened. Love would never allow someone to continue in their sin, to continue in their folly, and not call it out. It’s not loving to do that. Those of us that have children understand that we cannot allow our children to continue in their foolishness, that otherwise they’ll grow up to be fools. The loving parent will correct that child. The loving parent will discipline that child. And I’m not saying that we are to talk to people as though they are children, but what I am saying is that to call out these abominations is loving. To call out the practitioners, to identify them and to call them to repentance, that is loving. That is true love. Isaac Simmons and all of the UMC as a whole and all of the LGBTQIA and all of these people that are practicing this heresy, practicing these lies, they’re all heretics. They defy God at every pass. God has condemned the practice of sodomy homosexuality. Simmons practices it shamelessly and encourages others to do the same. God has declared that he created them, male and female, and Simmons has obfuscated that distinction. God has laid out the requirements for a bishop in his church, and Simmons meets none of those requirements. But instead he spits on them as though it’s nothing, as though none of that means anything. The words of his very own mouth say that God and His Word are nothing. He has blasphemed God by declaring Him and His Word to be nothing. As I mentioned before, he set himself up as his own God and he is calling others to affirm and encourage and follow Him as though he is the arbiter of truth, as though he is the God of the universe. Love would not rejoice in any of that wickedness. He is a heretic. And if anyone listens to the abominations coming out of his mouth, that man will lead you to hell. And if you even think, even in a small way or in a small begrudging amount, that somehow we need to cede to this agenda, I implore you to get back into the Scriptures and to read the Word in its totality. Because not just Isaac Simmons, but the UMC, and all the people who speak and think and talk like them are twisting the word of God blaspheming his holy name, and we need to call them to repentance.

I couldn’t agree more. And I think we are so fired up. It’s time for a break. You’re listening to the removal barriers podcast and we are discussing Isaac Simmons and Romans Twelve. We’ll be right back.

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All right, Jay. So we’re talking about Isaac Simmons and Romans Twelve, two in particular. So Isaac Simmons was at a church. And if you think the first two clips were really bad, this last one is extremely bad. Or I guess the word for this podcast is egregious. But before I play that clip, this clip involves two young girls. I don’t believe they’re older than eight. I think the younger one looks the most six and the oldest one look about eight. In my opinion, and I think that bothers me as well, is that these Jag queens and the LGBTQIA community always tend to involve children in their performances and stuff that they go into libraries and read, again, Ruman, the Next Generation. I believe. However, he was at a church and two young girls were upfront sitting faith in the congregation. And we have a clergy, I don’t know his name, let’s just call him clergy heretic on one side, and then we have Isaac Simmons on the other side. And he was basically introducing Isaac Simmons just as a drag queen to these young girls and asking them if they have any questions and stuff like that. Here is the clip.

Do either of you have any questions for Ms. Pentecost? I like your eyeshadow. Oh, thank you. Yeah, you like her eyeshadow. That’s great. Yeah, maybe she’ll let you borrow it when you’re older, when you’re allowed to wear makeup. Well, one of the things I think is great about Ms. Pentecost is she. Reminds us that we follow a God who calls us to not conform to things of this world, that we’re supposed to be transformed by the renewal of our minds. And that means that what I think today may have to change tomorrow if I continue to renew my mind. And it’s so cool that we serve a God that calls us to continue to grow and continue to change into something new and to not be bound by the ways that the world confines us sometimes, that we’re supposed to live differently. All right, Jay, I don’t have a degree in theology. As far as I know, you have a degree in the Bible, so I will throw this one to you. What is Romans chapter twelve actually talking about? Because something tells me that what this clergy heretic said about Romans chapter twelve and verse two. For those of you who didn’t recognize the scripture he was attempting to quote and explain it from Romans twelve two. So what is Romans twelve one and two especially is saying, I don’t have a degree in theology either. But you do have a degree in the Bible, correct? I do. Okay, but continue. But that’s completely irrelevant here because the Bible explains itself. What I mean by that is even a child could read the Scriptures and realize and compare it to what Isaac Simmons was saying and what that heretic was saying and realize that’s not what the Bible says. The Bible explains itself. Romans chapter twelve is not telling Christians to be conformed by the renewing of our mind according to our minds. That heretic basically said that there are going to be times when, because we are called to live differently, that we have to change how we think about certain things, perhaps in a way that we thought before, we have to change according to and he never said the word of God. He never said the scriptures. He basically said to renew your mind according to your own mind, according to basically what’s happening in the world right now. Romans twelve, he conveniently neglected to mention his Paul. Beseeching the recipients of that letter.

You don’t need a Bible degree to realize that in verse one it says, I beseech you therefore, brethren, therefore I have a pastor who said, I’m digressing all over the place. I have a pastor who said that when you read the Scriptures and you see the word therefore, you ought to stop and figure out what it’s there for. And in chapter eleven, Paul was talking about Israel and being grafted in and all of that. And as a result of that entire chapter I beseech you therefore brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice wholly acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And then comes the verse, and be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind. This is the part that he conveniently left out that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. The word of God explains itself. No Scripture is of private interpretation. Two Peter 120 tells us and so presenting our bodies as living sacrifice, holy and acceptable unto God, is the very least that we can do in light of what he did for us, in light of everything in Romans eleven, in light of the mercy of God that he doesn’t just wipe us out even though we totally deserve it. We are to renew our minds in accordance with the Scriptures. We do that, and we are transformed by the Word, by reading it and studying it in its entirety. We don’t cherry pick verses out of the Scripture and then twist and transform that verse to fit what we are trying to present, or in Isaac Simmons case, and trying to twist the Scriptures into promoting and supporting queer theory, gender, ideology and all that sort of thing.

We have to read the word, obey it, and be transformed by it. Psalm 119 describes that’s the longest Psalm in the Bible, longest chapter in the Bible, describing the importance of the Word of God, how it’s our very meat, it’s our light, it’s what we live by, it’s the holy infallible word of God, as MCG mentioned before. Romans 15, four to five, tells us that everything that was written in it of four time was written for our learning, that we might know how to order our lives accordingly. Two Timothy three, verses 14, all the way down to 17, tells us that it is the Word of God is absolutely necessary for us to be transformed so that we can let me quote it. Two. Timothy. Three. Six. I’ll start at verse 14 to take that verse and to twist it. Two Timothy tells us that all Scripture is given by inspiration of God and it’s profitable for proof, for instruction and righteousness. It’s not for us to excuse or to explain or to support our sin. Let me read it verbatim here. It says verse 14 in 2003 but continue thou in the things which thou hast learned. This is Paul talking to Timothy and has been assured of knowing of whom thou hast learned them, and that from a child thou hast known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith, which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction and righteousness. That the man of God may continue in queer theory no. So that the man of God may be perfect and thoroughly furnished unto all good works, good works that the Scriptures describe as those things which glorify the Lord, those things that God has commended us to do. Romans twelve does not tell us to change our minds according to the whims of men, or according to the ebb and flow of culture, which is what he was encouraging those young children to do. And the Lord is clear about people hindering children from coming to the Lord. When the children were coming to Christ and the disciples were preventing them, Jesus was very displeased with that. And Jesus said, you’d be better to have a millstone tied around your neck and thrown into the middle of the ocean than for you to hinder these children from coming to me. And when we tell the children that LGBTQ is okay, that queer is okay, that gender ideology and queerness are actually holy things, we are confusing and perverting them, and we are hindering their access to Christ because we’re confusing them. Instead of removing barriers, right. We are creating barriers for them. And woe to that man. Jesus made that very clear. Woe to that man for doing that to those children and to the parents who allow it.

Oh, definitely both of them. Both the clergy heretic and Isaac Simmons and the entire church. Yes, that was really bad. And as I said earlier, this baffled my mind that they’re always using children. But of course, the devil is a master deceiver, and he knows that the children are the future. So I remember that my pastor that I grew up under, he said that there was this famous Muslim man, I don’t remember his name, but that Muslim man said, give me a child at five, and I’ll make him a Muslim for the rest of his life. That’s exactly what der clergy and Isaac’s Samantha are doing. We’re taking these kids and they’re at five and six and seven and eight, and they’re making them allies for the rest of their life. Or turn them queer themselves. Exactly. Or LGBTQ themselves. But it’s convenient here because I’m going to go in a little bit different direction that you went, dear J, because it’s a convenient here that they left out first one, of course, you quoted already. I beseech you, therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. The fact here is, Paul is telling Christians, in order for you to live a Biblical Christian life, paul is urging you, he’s begging you to live in such a way that you can present your bodies to God as a living sacrifice. Go back to the Old Testament and how they would present as lamb without spot that, without blemish to God. And it’s interesting here, because if you look at the sacrificial offerings in the Old Testament, at times they would actually present everything. Nothing goes to waste in this offering sacrificial offerings of the Lamb. God would say, hey, look, you present your entire body, which is your reasonable or logical service. But you know why these men cannot realize and come to a reasonable, illogical service? Because they’ve never seen their own depravity. When we see our own depravity, and see how sinful we are, how exceeding sinful our sin is, when we compare it to a holy and righteous God. We have no other option but to see our own depravity and realize, hey, it’s just a reasonable thing for us to do to present our bodies as a living sacrifice because we are so depraved. But these men have not seen that Aka did not save, so they can’t come to the reasonable service. So no wonder he left out verse one, because verse one will clear up the entire misinterpretation of verse two that he has, and he took out the latter half of verse two as well.

So let’s compare this to Second Corinthians, chapter eight, where when these folks were met with given their reasonable service, they gave sacrificially. And the Bible said that they gave out of their deep poverty two Corinthians, chapter eight. Moreover, breadwin we do you to wit the grace of God bestowed onto the churches of Macedonia, called that in a great child of affliction and the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded onto the riches of their liberality. For to their power I bear record, yea, and beyond their power they were willing of themselves praying us with much entreaty that we should receive the gift and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering of the saints. And this they did not as we hope, but first gave their own selves to the Lord and unto us by the will of God. And all that time, churches will use this verse to encourage what they call grace given and all this stuff. But what stood out to me here is that first they gave of themselves talking about the living sacrifice, before they gave any money, before they gave anything else, they gave of themselves to the Lord. Compare that to Romans twelve one. I beseech you, I beg you to be presented by the living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God. So how do you do all that? How do you get to a place that you present your body, the living sacrifice? How do you get to a place where first you give of yourself to the Lord? How do you get to a place that out of your deep poverty, you’re still giving? Well, first two tells us and be not conformed to this world, because if you’re conformed to this world, there’s no way you’re going to give sacrificially. There’s no way you’re going to give of yourself first, because you’re conformed to the ways of the world. And be he transformed by the renewing of your mind, that he may prove what is good, acceptable and perfect will of God. I like what Matthew Henry had to say about this. He said, the progress of sanctification, dying to sin more and more and living to righteousness more and more is the carrying on to this renewing work till it is perfected in glory. The great enemy to this renewal is conformity to the world. And what is more a conformity to this world than Justin and Jack? You’re basically saying, hey God, you are out of confusion, are your man, are your woman queens questioning God? You make me in between. I’m a Frankenstein. That’s basically what they’re saying. But to this clergy heretic, as we are calling him, I also james, chapter four, verse four, he adulterers, an adulteress know he not that the friendship of the world is enemy with God, whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world, is the enemy of God. And we don’t have to go much further from Isaac Simon’s own word, god is nothing. The Bible is nothing. Of course he’s the enemy of God. This man is not safe. But my prayer for him is that he will come to a point where he can repent of his sin and trust Christ as his Savior.

But the question begs to how should Christian respond to someone like Mr. Clergy Heritage and Isaac Simmons and other folks that are in this movement? I would say that there needs to be a boldness. And I think that as you mentioned before, there needs to be more truth and a wee bit less grace. Let’s bring that back into balance. I’m not saying no grace. Just pull back on the grace a little bit and let’s actually be bold and stand up and speak some truth. If we look at it in light of eternity, perhaps that will help us to not be so afraid to say dogmatically, that God hates sin, he hates homosexuality, he hates the queerness, he hates the church’s acceptance of it, and he hates the church’s mealy mouth, limp wristed response to it. Again, I say speaking up about these things, calling it out and calling these people to repentance, calling sinners to repentance, is how we should respond. We should be just like our Lord, full of grace and full of truth. We should not shy away from calling people like Isaac Simmons to repentance. I think that there are many solid churches that are doing exactly that. But sadly, there are many, many, many churches who have embraced LGBTQ, perhaps critical race theory. All of these things, all of this mixed bag of leftist ideology, embrace it as under the guise or the pretense of loving or accepting them, trying to win them to Christ. You can’t go down a path of sin and expect to yield fruit of righteousness. We must call out the sin and realize that this ideology came straight from the pit of hell. It festered in the heart of man. From Karl Marx down to the Frankfurt School, down to American academia into the mainstream here today. That’s the trail that it came from. And Christians need to call out the poison, call out the sin, call folks to repentance. We have the truth. Let’s share it with the world. We see how sinful and backward and lost the world is without it, let’s throw out the lifeline.

Yeah, definitely. I couldn’t agree more. And simply, how should Christian respond? With the gospel? Yes with the gospel. This culture today is in thin and deep spiritual darkness, and they can only be saved when the light of the glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ shines true. And whose task will bring in that gospel? US. The Bible believe in Christians, but all have we failed? Oh, have we failed. Christ made it clear when he was on Earth that the harvest truly is plentyous, but the laboratories are few. You know, I think perhaps a part of it as well is that Christians are more concerned about what people think of them or what people will say if they confront it than what the Lord thinks of them and what the Lord has called them to do. There’s a fear of man there. No one wants to be called a bigot. No one wants to be called out. No one wants to be the start of a riot somewhere because LGBTQ, microaggression, whatever buzzword that you want to plop in there, christians are running scared because they are afraid of what men will say of them. I don’t think Christians are concerned enough about what God will think of them, what God thinks and what God has told them has called us to do. I don’t want to make it sound like I’m not in this. He’s talking to me as well. Absolutely. We should be responding with the gospel because this is something that the church is going to have to deal with. We are going to have to witness to people who have no concept of mommy and daddy because they grew up with two mommies or two daddies or perhaps, oh, God forbid, that they were raised by a drag person or transgender or non binary or whatever novel identity that is spewing from the sewer that is American academia. There are people who will be raised in those households, raised in that environment. Their thinking will be absolutely warped. And Christians have to witness to them. Christians have to reach out to them and minister to them. How are we going to do that? How should churches address this? And what can we do to prevent this sort of thing from happening, from continuing to happen?

Yeah, I’m going to answer the question, but also going back to what you said, just a quick commentary, because, you know, a lot of Christians are more concerned about the political arena than the arena of sharing the gospel because they figure we can bring about change through politics. And if that is true, it’s a very, very, very small percentage. The most important path here is actually sharing the word of God, sharing the gospel. Anyway, I’m not going to go on that rant. I think you should, because we did this podcast about Christians confusing their conservatism with their Christianity. What we need to realize is that, again, I attribute this to Michael Mallison this he says that conservatism is merely progressivism going the speed limit. Do we realize that most of the conservative talking heads that we see on TV and that we see on social media have no problems with LGBTQ? They accept them, they encourage them, they use their pronouns, they don’t want to offend them. Political commentator Dave Rubin recently married a man and they have gone through the process of having children be a surrogacy, and everyone is congratulating them as though this were this wonderful thing. So let’s not pretend, let’s not believe that Conservatism is the answer. Because in many ways conservatism is just as corrupt as the left. The conservative people have welcomed Bruce Jenner, and don’t say that I’m misgendering him because he is a hymn dead name. Oh, that’s the word, dead naming. That man is a man and he’s presenting himself as a woman. Well, conservatives have welcomed him and he’s on Fox News commentating as though he has any ground to speak on the debauchery and the perversion and the rot in our nation when he is the shining example of it. So let’s not believe, as I hope that you go into explaining MCG, that somehow conservatism is the answer, or political activism or political involvement is the answer. Well, you have done a pretty good job there. That’s good.

But how can we prevent this from happening in our churches? It’s simple. Stand on the word of God. Go back to what I said about John Wesley. Again, I believe he was a safe man. I believe that he did a good thing in England. And actually, I didn’t even mention this point, but the First Methodist Church that was started outside of England was actually started in the Caribbean by one of John Wesley converts that went back to the Caribbean. He was a slave owner and stuff like that and preached the gospel on the plantation. I mean, if a slave got saved again, of course I’m not going to get into the fact that he owned slave and all that stuff, different time, different error, but I believe he was saved. But John Wesley did not stand perfectly on the word of God. Have you noticed that both Isaac Simmons, this Methodist clergy, we call it Mr. Clergy heretic, and the devil use the same trick? And what is that you may say, had God said questioning LGBTQ Genesis tree one, the Devil and his minions are still following the age old trick. Cause us to doubt the word of God as God said. That’s exactly what the clergyman did, taking Romans chapter twelve, verse two, and twisting it in such a way that he didn’t even realize he could switch that much without snapping. That’s exactly what he did. There’s a YouTube video of Isaac Simmons explaining Mark, chapter 16 of The Crucifixion of Christ and comparing it to queerness and holiness because of what Christ has to go through is the same thing that queer people are going through that’s blasphemous. So how do we prevent this? By standing a word of God. Ephesians, chapter four, verse 13 says, therefore take unto you the whole armor of God that he may be able to withstand in the evil day. And having done all to stand stand therefore, having your loins gird about retruth and having on the breastplate of righteousness and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace above all taking the shield of faith wherewith he shall be able to quench all the fiery dots of the wicked and take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God. Listener let us stand, let us stand on the word of God and share the Gospel, because that is the only way, that is the only way we’re going to reach this community.

You see Issac Simmons believe salvation come from true expression of oneself. But what does the Bible say here? What does the Bible says about how do we get salvation? I am not surprised that Isaac Simmons would say that, because Isaac Simmons believed that his expression of dragness and queerness is holiness, is the way he was made, is his identity. Isaac has found his identity in Jag and that meant he will be forever been seeking for satisfaction without finding it, because he has placed his identity in something that he will never find satisfaction. But as Bible believe in Christians, our identity should be and is in Christ. But how do we put our identity in Christ? You may ask. I’m glad you asked a question. Allow me to tell your story of John Wesley as a six year old boy. One night, John Wesley was in bed and he woke up because there was a fire in his home. Now, John’s father, his mother and his nine other siblings because they had 19 kids, but only ten of them made it to adulthood. So John Wesley woke up fired in his home and he was trapped in his bedroom. All his family ran out, was safely out of the building, the communication start gathering and they did a headcount. When you have a large family, you do head counts. And they realized that there are only nine kids, one missing. John was was smart enough to stand on the table beside his window in his bedroom and that way his father saw him and they didn’t have enough time to go and grab a ladder. So they created what they call a human ladder with one person standing on a person’s shoulder. And John Wesley’s father stood and stretched his hand out as young John jumped into his father’s hand and was peered from the fire. You can see where I’m going here. There’s a fire coming for us as well. That’s the fire of hell. And our Heavenly Father is standing with his hand outstretched. And only thing we need to do is jump into the arms of the Heavenly Father, because he has already created a way for us to escape the dangers of hell to Jesus Christ. And he’s saying to us, Come, do you want to escape the true judgment of hell that’s coming? The Father stands awaiting with his hands outstretched and beckoning unto you, beseeching you to jump. Isaiah One, verse 18 said, come now, and let us reason together, said the Lord. Do your sins be a scarlet? They shall be as white as snow do they be red like crimson? They shall be as wool. Romans 1013 for whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. My question is, would you jump in his arms today?

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